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La Paz resident dies in boating accident
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 Posted: Sat Nov 18th, 2006 04:56 pm

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soloskipper wrote: Peg, do you have a boat in the San Carlos area?
Currently my boat is in La Paz.  Will do the Mexico mainland this winter/spring and head up to San Carlos in late spring.

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 Posted: Sat Sep 13th, 2008 10:31 pm

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Hi, did  some one have info about the boat legal or ownershjp situation?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 04:52 am

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I found the wreck last week while on a diving trip in the area of Mag Bay.   I was in a Mikelson Nomad 62 and was navigating the coast very carefully in excellent daylight weather in roughly 100 feet of water.   In that area 100 feet of water has you uncomfortably close to the shore and the only way I would be there is with the excellent forward looking sonar that we have on board.   

Only the crew of the Charlotte B / Aurora would know what really happened and possibly only the one that was driving at the time.   I read all the posts and assuming the post made where someone stated that they thought they were headed to a sandy beach after the impact was right well then it had to have happened at night because the nearest sand is miles away.   If the person driving that night was sleeping or drunk I could see this happening, otherwise there is no way they should have been even remotely close to that beach at night unless they were intimately familiar with that area.   There are three wrecks in that same area we found, two were quite old and then the Nordhavn that was relatively fresh.   If the crew had left La Paz or Cabo for Mag Bay they would have been very tired about that time and even more tired in 35 knot winds.  I know the feeling, late at night, repetitive wave impacts and blink your out......

Here is the crazy thing about the entire meeting of the Aurora for me, in 2005 I was dealing on that very same boat to purchase it when I put a deposit on a Nordhavn 55.   I spent some time on the Williwaw a Nordavn 47 and realized I was not a Nordy owner, we were leaving the San Blas islands in Panama when we hooked up to a small fish.   The owners stopped the boat and in very calm seas the boat was rocking violently stuff flying all over the boat and me sliding dangerously on the swim step dealing with a small fish.   In addition the hull shape of the 47 (much the same of other Nordhavns) causes perpetual pitch oscillations and the roll is dangerous on a Nordhavn and the pitch movement is to much for me to take after being on boats that try to stop pitching.   In anything bigger than 2 to 3 foot swells the Nordhavn is not fishable while stopped.   I found the Mikelson has PLENTY of range and can cruise faster than the Nordhavn by a serious margin and at 8.5 knots I can make it San Diego to Hawaii with reserves no problem which is all the range I would ever need or want.   The Mikelson rocks when stopped about half as much as the Nordhavn, much better for diving fishing. 

Anyway, I swam to the wreck with my family and I was shocked to find the same boat I remember so well almost buying four years ago.    Get this, inside the boat my wife found the reseme of the capatain whom was aboard that night in addition to the spec sheet from the purchase and closing documents.   We took the drawer that contained the documents and have it as a reminder about the seriousness of boating.   I think that it is seriously unlikely that the crew were intentionally that close to shore, I think this was a mistake.   The boat did not have sonar, getting that close to the rocks without sonar is boating by brail.   I am saddened that someone died there, my crew and family were very sad and some people even expressed their sadness seing the boat on the rocks like that.   Seeing the boat on the rocks made me think of all the nights I have spent cruising 10 knots in my fiberglass boats hoping and praying I don't find something big on the surface.  

No currents, winds or waves could have caused the competent crew of that boat to think they were making their way into the Mag Bay entrance.    Let this be a literal wake up call for all of us! 

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 5th, 2009 02:51 pm

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Thanks for this info, i search for recent  photos with friends , can you tell us the hull conditions ( too damaged??? the upper estructure is apart? or if some one made a hole to tahe the engine?) thanks

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 Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 02:33 pm

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It occurred to me that some people that followed this thread may be interested to learn that Steve Miller, long time salesman for Nordhaven in Dana Point harbor, died recently of a massive heart attack. His funeral was last Thursday.

Steve was one of the earliest persons I started going down to Baja with in the late 70s. We both worked at a college at the time.

Bien viaje, Esteban................


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