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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 12:51 am

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Vince, maybe you can shed some light on this for me;

I have heard, and from what I see on weather underground, that I can expect winds in the 10 to 15 MPH range in the SOC pretty regularly and anything much over 15 is pretty irregular, other than storms.

Does this sound realistic to you?

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I am not Vince but having cruised the Sea of Cortez from October until April for the past 7 years I can only dream of 10 to 15 knot winds as the norm.  Many of us have spent too many days and weeks in anchorages hoping for those kind of conditions, so we could move on, to believe that the data you have received is very realistic.  I'm sure Vince and others have better information but I for one am skeptical.

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John

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October - April is winter, Norther time. I'm thinking more of the summer months when the billfish make their journey north.

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Ya I would have to agree with you 10 to 15 knots is pretty standard summer time wind.  Although as we all know it can blow much harder than that.

We had a nice Chubasco last night and I was lucky enough to be on the beach when it came through. I didn't have me wind gauge with me but it probably blew in the 20's for around 10 minutes before it droped down and then started to rain.

One word of advise is don't put too much faith in what the wind sites predict in summer, especially whether buoy, they tend to be very inaccurate in summer time.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 8th, 2008 07:29 pm

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Vince Radice wrote: Ya I would have to agree with you 10 to 15 knots is pretty standard summer time wind.  Although as we all know it can blow much harder than that.

We had a nice Chubasco last night and I was lucky enough to be on the beach when it came through. I didn't have me wind gauge with me but it probably blew in the 20's for around 10 minutes before it droped down and then started to rain.

One word of advise is don't put too much faith in what the wind sites predict in summer, especially whether buoy, they tend to be very inaccurate in summer time.

I got monthly averages from Weather Underground for 2 years and picked SC, Loreto and La Paz. It looks like the wind is ~10% to 15% lighter on the eastern Baja side. It also looks like the typical pattern is calm mornings with wind picking up towards noon and remaining at peak levels until around sunset - perfect for a day on the water and a night on the hook.

The boat I'm looking at for retirement is a cruising cat (Leopard 47) that performs best with winds in the 15MPH range. I'm talking with other owners and a company rep who thinks I can increase light wind performance by adding an asymmetrical or gennaker.

Vince, you have a cat don't you? What do you think about this?

I never had to worry about this stuff with my little nacra...  ;)

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You bet I plan on getting a big one for our 28 foot trimaran chantik next year, right after I put a bigger mast on her and more flotation on the amas.  If you get that Leopard sign me up for first mate, I am dying to sail one of those!!!!

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Vince Radice wrote: You bet I plan on getting a big one for our 28 foot trimaran chantik next year, right after I put a bigger mast on her and more flotation on the amas.  If you get that Leopard sign me up for first mate, I am dying to sail one of those!!!!

What are your thoughts on screechers? How about adding a bowsprit? Changing the mast, standing rigging and sails is going to be expensive!

The Leopard is a little ways down the road but it's how I intend to spend my retirement. I've always wanted to do some extensive cruising but I want to start out slow. I don't think I'm mentally ready for any long ocean crossings.

I look forward to sailing it in the SOC and of course you're more than welcome to join us. It's going to take a little while to learn how to fish that thing... ;)

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I already have a carbon bow sprit for Chantik but I need more horsepower. I have a simple goal really, to be the fastest boat in san carlos, there is a stilletto out at Paradiso that is pretty fast though.


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Vince Radice wrote: I already have a carbon bow sprit for Chantik but I need more horsepower. I have a simple goal really, to be the fastest boat in san carlos, there is a stilletto out at Paradiso that is pretty fast though.




Those Stilletos make me drool. Is it a 27 or 30? I thought about buying a 30 from a guy in Illinois. Very tempting....  I think there's an outfit in California that still sells parts for them.

The way to beat them is to push them as hard as you can, maybe you can get them to pitch pole and you'll sail right by.... They carry a lot of sail. Another great hot rod cat is the Reynolds but it's strictly a racer. Neither is an entry level boat as they can both get away from you if you're not staying on top of them. I used to be able to right my nacra all by myself. You'd need some help with either a Reynolds or Stilleto.

I think I could fish a Stilletto.... Hummm, trailerable too.  ;)

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 Posted: Fri Aug 15th, 2008 10:38 pm

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Ya the stilletto is light and fast but not really great for open ocean. It would be a wet ride beating in a northwesterly in a stilleto. That is the only way I could take a stilleto I am sure is if we were in rough seas and they had a major failure of someking. But It would be fun trying.


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