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Permit for National Park Islands
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Chinook
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 Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 07:17 pm

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Does anyone know where one obtains an annual permit for visiting, and going ashore on, the islands in the Sea of Cortez that are classified as National Park?  Can an annual permit be obtained in advance from the US via Internet?  Is it available in San Carlos? 

Your help is appreciated.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 10:29 pm

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I am not aware of any means of securing these in the US.

In fact, even in Mexico, it depends on the islands you want to visit. I know of the existance of offices in La Paz, Loreto and Bahia de Los Angeles but have only read of people personally going to the offices in advance. The specific office controls permits to specific islands near their office. I dont think you can get permits in BOLA for islands off La Paz, for instance.

Of the instances I have read about where persons were found by the "authorities" on islas without permits...............they simply sold them the permits on the spot. So, maybe it's worth the gamble.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 11:53 pm

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As a general rule (from what I've read), the only valid reason for a permit is "scientific research." I don't think they are issued for camping or general visits. Of course, that doesn't stop locals from setting up fish camps on them.

If anybody knows different, I'd sure like to know.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 12:18 am

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I am aware of several individuals who have applied for permits in the BOLA area for purely recreational reasons. Very recently, too.

Less familiar with the islas around Loreto although I see regular pics of pangas and gringo (is that derogatory over here, too???) boats on the beach at Isla Coronado.

I was also under the impression that kayak groups (at least) are still being issues permits for Espiritu Santo.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 01:06 am

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I am terrible sorry that I can't remember the name of the organization.  You can buy an annual pass.  They call it a passport and it is good for all of the parks in Mexico.

I had one 3 years ago, I purchased it in La Paz at a seminar on the park system in Mexico.  My memory is that it cost about 200 pesos.

Good Luck, someone will remember the name of the ofice that handle.

Hold on I just searched on line and the organization is CONANP or SEMARNAT.  The websites are:

http://www.conanp.gob.mx/

http://www.semarnat.gob.mx/Pages/inicio.aspx

Just a quick look at the websites, nothing jumped out at me that enables you to purchase your permit online.

Good luck

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I'm appreciating the comments, although the issue still seems muddled.  I called San Carlos Marina and Vagabundos del Mar, but no one at either place could offer any advice.  I looked a bit at the first website listed above, which was also referenced in Bansmer and Breeding's new Cruise Guide (nice looking publication), but without knowing Spanish, I couldn't see anything that looked like permit rules, or how to obtain same.  I'm still hopeful that someone here will have, or can locate, a definitive answer to the question.  If, after good effort from home and when in the neighborhood down there, I can't get an answer, I'll probably go ahead and land, and try to work things through if someone official swings by.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 04:43 am

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Both of the websites I listed have a contacts page.  Write them an email and tell them you would like to communicate in english, since you don't speak spanish, and purchase a pass.

I discourage you from doing something you know is illegal, visiting the parklands without a permit.

Take some time and do it right or...............

Love and kisses,

Curmudgeon, a full-time resident of Santiago, Colima

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 Posted: Thu Feb 14th, 2008 05:18 am

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A couple of good resources who might be able to help would be Mary Schroyer at Marina De La paz or check the Baja Insider website and ask the question there.  The people in La Paz are very up to date on island permits due to the charter services and kayak tours starting from there.

Regards,

John 

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 Posted: Fri Feb 15th, 2008 05:57 am

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You can get permits for walking on the islands in the Sea of Cortez from Islas del Gulfo de California, they have an office in MiraMar, I believe the number is 2210300.

Call them and they can direct you on a path for permits.


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 Posted: Wed May 27th, 2009 06:12 pm

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Last year we went to the Parque office in Loreto, we fish a couple tournaments while there. Most the islands around that area are in the national park system, the rules don't let you even pass thru the area by boat with out a permit.

You can buy a one day permit (wrist band) or a yearly permit that is good for all Mexican national parks for the year. Because we are on the water for so long we will by the year pass this year. I was hoping to by it in San Carlos , before getting to Loreto or online but can't find were to do that.

The parks do have a patrol boat and they do patrol, we were around the island for 3 weeks last year and never saw a patrol boat, but we would rather not worry about it. You have to buy a daily pass or one year pass for each person on the boat.


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