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Posted: Sun Feb 4th, 2007 04:06 pm |
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| If i launch my small trailer boat in Kino bay, sail down to San Carlos or over to Santa Rosilia and need to stop in to get food gas and ice, do I have to check in with the port officals for depart and arrival authorizations?
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Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2007 03:03 pm |
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Ok well here goes my recommendation. You will already have your boat papers from the boarder when you get into the country. I don't believe there is anyone to check out with in Bahia Kino so I would do all my sailing, go where you please with the paper work you get from the border. When you arrive in San Carlos make sure you have your paperwork. The marina will not give you a slip without your paper work from the border. Also, and the most important part of your trip, make sure you file your float plan with someone reliable so if you turn up missing then your float plan will be used as a basis for a search. So you should decide where you are going before you go there. The rules have changed now and cruising sailboats don't have to check in and check out like we used to. I actually would never check in and check out if I could avoid it back then. It was a real hassle but now If I have it correct once you check into the country officially as a cruising sailboat you don't have to check in and check out of every port you enter.
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Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2007 04:43 pm |
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Vince's comments on float plans is very worthwhile. The issue on paperwork is now a bit different because you do not HAVE to get a Temporary Import permit (TIP) at the border if you plan to stay in the free zone, which includes San Carlos, Guaymas, Kino Bay, and Rocky Point and point sin between. Not sure about the Baja and impact of crossing the Gulf. My advice would be to get a TIP if you plan to go back and forth. But you may have to argue at 21km to get one. Tell them you plan to sail out of the free zone.
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Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2007 06:29 pm |
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| thankyou guys for your reply, This TIP document,is this the same document that I used to have to get at 21K checkpoint? When I got that they would list the truck boat and Quads all on the same Permit, Other than that the only boat paper work I've ever had was a boat permit and a fish license which I always got from Vagabundos Del Mar online. Also I am upgrading from a 14ft aluminum I used for years at puerto lobos(a little north of Kino), to a 26ft Mcgregor sailing boat, as far as radio's go is VHF the most commonlly used in the area.Thanks for bearing with me
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2007 07:26 pm |
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The TIP is a 10 year import permit-if you are not leaving the boat in Mexico and do not plan to leave the free zone, you probably do not need one.
Yes, VHF is an absolute must have. Frankly if you are going to be traveling in a small 26' boat and not in company with other boats, i would go so far as to recommend you have both a fixed mount and handheld VHF and at least a handheld GPS. If you have to scream for help, it really makes things simpler to know exactly where you are.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 02:28 pm |
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I would not consider a 26' foot sail boat that small. I have sailed far off shore in the same size boat and consider a 26' sail boat far safer than a 26 foot power boat for crossing to the baja. Two VHF radios though is a good idea. Most power boaters feel that boats in this range are pretty small and a little sketchy but the reality is that if your boat is in good shape you are probably far safer stasitically than a power boat. Just make sure your standing rigging is in good shape and have a great sail.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2007 06:44 pm |
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| Thanks again, I probably won't be crossing over the sea this year until I get some time at the wheel. My only previous experience sailing was on a little sunfish style boat. I plan on staying between Kino and SC in calm weather until I know what I'm doing.The new boat will have a Honda 50hp on the back though so I guess you'd call it a motor-sailer.Also already have 2 handheld GPS's and plan on a fixed and handheld VHF.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16th, 2007 03:14 am |
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| Every boat larger that 16' needs a TIP. There is no free zone when it come to boating. You do not need the despatcho (port clearing papers) anymore. You are supposed to notify the marina or port captain by radio or writing to announce your arrival or departure. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16th, 2007 01:22 pm |
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Stay well out side of punta Baja as you come south of Kino, the shoal extends far off shore. Have a great sail.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 03:08 pm |
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Vince Radice wrote: The rules have changed now and cruising sailboats don't have to check in and check out like we used to. I actually would never check in and check out if I could avoid it back then. It was a real hassle but now If I have it correct once you check into the country officially as a cruising sailboat you don't have to check in and check out of every port you enter.
That is not correct. Yes, you must file all your paper work at the first Mexican port of entry but you obligation doesn't stop there. You must check in and out of every port in Mexico that has a port captain or marina. You can do this either in person or via VHF radio. There is no paperwork to file. It is just a simple check in/check out procedure. There are many reasons for this requirement, not the least of which is the Mexican government's attempt to fight the war on drugs. Boats that don't follow procedure are immediately suspect.
The Mexican government has tried to make the whole procedure more user friendly. If people start ignoring this simple procedure, then the alternative is to go back to the old system. We don't want that to happen.
In San Carlos, you can check in/out with either marina and that will take care of your obligation to the port captain. Even boats that are permanently moored in San Carlos must check out/in when leaving for a period of time. On VHF radio you might say, "Marina San Carlos this is REELTIME requesting check in from Loreto." That's it.
It is easy to comply with the law.
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Posted: Sat Feb 17th, 2007 05:35 pm |
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Peg, is correct. This also international law. It is also a courtesy, as is flying the flag of the country you are entering if you are a foreign registered vessel. Doing things properly will minimize any entry /departure problems.
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Posted: Sun Feb 18th, 2007 07:14 am |
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LimeyLInda wrote: Peg, is correct. This also international law. It is also a courtesy, as is flying the flag of the country you are entering if you are a foreign registered vessel. Doing things properly will minimize any entry /departure problems.
Regards to all
LL (aka Huh), please, please stop posting on these boards. You have been to SC twice in your life time, and once was for a time share gig.
You have spewed so much disinformation it is mind boggling (i.e. your tale about all the ppl on cb's at the border, coordinating with each other, and then the 12 check points between SC and Nogales). You don't even have a boat, and yet you are chiming in on this subject. What is your deal?? Soo bizare?
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