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Posted: Wed May 2nd, 2007 04:41 am |
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Does anyone know where the closest hyperbaric chamber is to San Carlos? I have herd of one in Guyamas but that its not for civilian use. I'm asking because I'm a divemaster from Az. and I need an emergecy plan for San Carlos, not because I'm bent.
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Posted: Wed May 2nd, 2007 02:07 pm |
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I think here in Hermosillo is one, for Medical use. When you are going towards Costco from Sams on the Periferiico. after the Sam's Intersection one Traffic Light further and right before the 2 Traffic Light on the left Hand you will see the Clinic with a big Sign advertising the Hyperbaric Chamber.
there is only one Problem , i dont think that they have the proper permit from the Public Health Office to operate that Chamber.
the one in Guaymas may not be for the Public, but maybe for Emergencies there is a possibilitie.
Maybe the Comisario in Sancarlos can help. I think it would be Important to have that chamber working for the diving tourism.
good look
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Posted: Thu May 3rd, 2007 04:08 pm |
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The Naval hospital in Guaymas has a chamber available for diving accidents.
Rescate the local 24 hour first aid & emergency ambulance service can arrange this service.
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Posted: Sat May 5th, 2007 07:51 pm |
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Could some local please map the chamber with google earth?
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Posted: Sat May 5th, 2007 11:49 pm |
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Location is not relevant as you need to go thru Rescate or some other medical treatment facility to be referred to the Naval Hospital. Those requiring treatment will be transported to the facility.
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Posted: Sat May 19th, 2007 07:43 pm |
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The best thing you can do regarding chamber info is contact DAN (either DAN America or DAN Latin America), as I believe they would transport the diver to San Diego, as I do not believe the chamber here is "DAN approved". It is a mono-chamber, as is the chamber in Hermosillo. That does not usually meet the needs of divers..usually those chambers are for diabetic and burn treatments.
If you have further questions, feel free to contact me, and I will be happy to provide you with more info.
Erica Wedepohl de Attwell
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Posted: Mon May 21st, 2007 09:49 pm |
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Yes , Erica Wedepohl de Attwell is right. at least the Hyperbaric Chamber in Hermosillo was not made for diving accidents.
It may help, but only a Tecnician of that brand of that Hyperbaric Chamber may now.
i Think the Chamber in Hermosillo was made in Columbia for People with Circulatory etc. Problems.
At least , that are the ones , i see most in Clinics here in Mexico.
saludos Hans
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Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2007 09:01 pm |
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What- would I need to make an appointment to use the chamber for a injured diver?
Do you know how that looks to me and other tourists that come to SC to enjoy themselves and support the local economy?
Part of my Dive Master training is to have a viable-workable plan in the event of a decompression accident. Am I to figure this all out while my diver is screaming in pain?
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Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2007 10:30 pm |
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In my opinion the ultimate authority on diver injuries and Diver First Aid is DAN.
My recommendation to all, is to take the DAN O2 First Aid for Diving Injuries, and if there is a diving injury, call the local EMS first (Rescate of SC, http://www.rescatesc.com/), then call DAN. DAN operates 24 x 7 and you can call them collect. See http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/contact/index.asp
As far as local chamber locations, DAN will NOTeven provide this information for the reasons specified in the below links.
http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/faq/faq.asp?faqid=203
http://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medical/faq/faq.asp?faqid=179
Sorry for the plug for DAN, but I am a member of DAN; I have DAN diver insurance; I have taken the DAN O2 course; and I have a DAN O2 Rescue Pak Also, DAN’s telephone numbers are on my cell phone as well as my O2 Rescue Pak. It’s best to be prepared.
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Fri Jul 6th, 2007 10:41 pm |
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MerrillD is correct on on the subject of chamber access information from DAN. So the procedure to follow for dive emergencies in San Carlos which may require a chamber is to contact Rescate via phone at 226-0911 or by VHF radio on channels 16 or 22 for initial medical treatment. If a referral to the Navy or other facility is necessary, the Rescate staff has the contacts and training on what needs to be done. I rather sincerely doubt that a dive master or other party would even be able to get access to the Navy base without going through these channels.
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Posted: Sat Jul 7th, 2007 05:46 pm |
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As a local dive operator and dive instructor, I think this is a very important topic for our local diving community. First and foremost, let's focus on prevention. There are many contibuting factors to decompression illness, but the most common and easily avoided is DEHYDRATION. This is a huge one for us in a resort atmosphere...desert heat and ocean humidity, exertion, fogetting to drink lots and lots of bottled water, and consumption of alcohol prior to diving (yes, this includes the night before and the evening after diving). Another thing that needs to be considered is level of certification and experience. According to DAN's Report on Decompression Illness 2001, more than 40% of injured divers had only an entry level certification. This number drops accordingly with higher levels of certification and experience. Not only is continuing your diving education fun and interesting, but it also makes you a safer diver! A strong buddy system is also a great safety net. Separated divers, or those diving alone, are much more likely to encounter injuries diving. So choose your buddy wisely!
Also very important is identification and PROMPT treatment of DI. I would suggest that you never dive on any boat or with any operation who does not have O2 onboard AND someone certified in the delivery and operation on O2. We teach the DAN O2 courses (O2, Adv. O2, Hazardous Marine Life, REMO2, AED, BLS Pro) in English and Spanish. Get a group together, and we'll give you a group rate! We can also help you with the purchase of your own O2 system. Purchase your own DAN insurance, chances are you'll never need it, but it is an inexpensive way to have peace of mind while diving.
Lastly, I think it would be really great if we as a diving community (dive operators, boat crews, divers, Rescate, Port Captain, etc) got together for a rescue practice day. We could address the basic steps in providing care for injured divers. If anyone is interested let me know, and we can start putting something together. The more we know, and the more who are in the know, the safer we are as divers.
I am happy to discuss this topic with anyone who is interested, as well as respond if there is a need.
Erica Wedepohl de Attwell
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