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Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2006 03:25 am |
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We plan to snorkel this weekend, what is the jelly fish situation. do we need wetsuits or "skins"?
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Thu Sep 28th, 2006 02:26 pm |
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We usually wear our skins as they offer good sunburn protection as well as protection from the little aguamales.
Bart
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daryl_s
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Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2007 12:14 am |
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| We were down in San Carlos early October 06 and there were no jellyfish. It was my first time so I was asking around and was told that the jellyfish had been gone for a few weeks by that time. When are the jellyfish there and not there??? Don't want to sound too ignorant but I am a total rookie wanting to learn. Thanks. Bye the way, love San Carlos and planning to head back 2 times in 07.
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Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2007 12:37 am |
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Seems to be hit or miss. My captain says they show up after it rains, not sure how true that is.
I didn't see many this year at all.
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daryl_s
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Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2007 01:05 am |
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| Thanks for the response. I have been doing some reading online in the meantime trying to find some answers, not finding many. I'm not too overly concerned about them, just trying to learn. How bad does it actually hurt?? Is it even something to be concerned about or not?? Thanks again.
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Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2007 01:58 am |
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You can spot them most times. So when you do, just don't get in the water there or that day.
Sometmes they are too small to spot. But in that case the sting is very minor. It just causes some itching.
I've been stung many times and it is not a big deal at all. Only once did I get stung by a big one. It hurt a little, but not super painful. It creates a whip like pattern that can itch a lot for several days.
I swim alot in the summer. I might get stung 3 or 4 times a year (none last year) by a little one, maybe 1 out of 15-20 times swimming or so. That's my experience anyway.
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Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2007 03:50 pm |
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| it's better to be cautious! my husband was burned across his whole back by an aquamala. he is a tough guy, but the burn looked like a large welt that stayed welted on his back for up to a week. He was in ALOT of pain, even with ice and medication and a trip to emergency. He couldn't work for two days. i was never worried about agua malas until I saw his welt. that same day a mother and her child were badly hurt too. it was a beautiful serene day with not a ripple on the ocean, and the water was unusually clear and beautiful. THAT was the day. Recipee for prevention: First, walk along the shore and look for aqua malas. if you see them, it's not a good day to swim without protection. If you don't see them, check and see if the tide is shifting to an incoming tide...then you need to be careful. That's how it happened to us. If you don't see them on the shore and it's an outgoing tide, you have nothing to worry about. But take precautions otherwise.
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daryl_s
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Posted: Sat Jan 13th, 2007 02:46 am |
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| Thanks for all the info. We will be heading down in late April and I will be prepared.
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bahiatrader
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Posted: Thu Apr 26th, 2007 01:51 pm |
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| I swim and snorkle in the Sea of Cortez a lot. A sting from a small jellyfish is irritating. I carry a bottle of vinegar with me on the boat to neutralize the alkaline poison. It seems to help with the burning feeling a little. Watch out for the full size ones though. My wife got hit by a bad one once. She was in a lot of pain. She had welts and blisters on her face, back, chest, and arms for days. I've heard that some can be fatal. Keep you eyes out for them. A wet suit or a skin isn't a bad idea.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:57 pm |
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| Toothpaste works for me, and pain pills. Get it on quickly. The rain thing might be true. I thought it was around a week after the full moon. They usually show up when the water is much warmer. Don't sit in a bright blue floating chair. I think they thought is was a jellyfish orgy going on.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28th, 2007 07:08 pm |
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I've been hearing all kinds of remedies for jellyfish stings for years. For good information, go to: http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic199.htm It has pretty complete coverage of the problem by David Cheng, MD, Assistant Professor, Department of Surgery, Division of Emergency Medicine, New York Presbyterian Hospital, Cornell University. Dr. Cheng says to rinse the affected area with saline solution (seawater will do in a pinch, but it contains microorganisms and possible pathogens) and antiseptics. To quote his article:
"Soak the wound in 5% acetic acid for 15-30 minutes to further inhibit nematocyte discharge. Although acetic acid inhibits nematocytes, it does not provide pain relief. Other possible inhibitors include 70% isopropyl alcohol or the papain found in meat tenderizer to denature the proteinase toxins. Unfortunately, these other inhibitors have little effect on nonproteinaceous toxins. "
Vinegar contains acetic acid. It may not stop the pain, but it sure helps it from getting worse. I always carry a bottle of vinegar on the boat with me. Another option in a pinch might be to squeeze a lemon or a lime on the wound for the citric acid. Maybe I ought to bring along a bottle of tequila as a possible inhibitor. Lime and tequila? Jose Cuervo could be a friend of mine...
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Posted: Tue May 1st, 2007 04:17 am |
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I've been stung with little pops so many times I can't count, but then again I've been diving the area every summer since about 1974. My last really good stinging was about 8 years ago. I got a lot of the digestive acid on me as well as the stingers. It was a particularly bad summer. Good news was that the scar was instance acceptance with the local native divers. That and the fact that I free dive exclusively. Bad news was that the scar took about a year to go away. I will affectionally wear that one though!
My youngest son got popped pretty good when he was about 8 years old. We ended up taking him to the doctor when we got back to Phoenix as the swelling had not gone down and had red coloring. They gave him a oral steroid and you could literally watch the swelling colapse. Again, he thought it was cool, but he did scream a bit when he first got hit.
I watch the area closely, come up slow and circle, wear gloves and usually a jelly type of sun screen and I've really been pretty comfortable.
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Posted: Mon May 21st, 2007 08:15 pm |
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| I see http://www.teekatan.com is advertising sea safe suntan with jellyfish repellent! And comming soon shark repellant!!
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Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2007 08:45 pm |
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| Does that repel stingrays too?
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Posted: Tue May 22nd, 2007 09:52 pm |
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We have SAFE SEA Sunscreen with Jellyfish Sting Protective Lotion for sale at the shop.
Also we have after sting gel " Jelly Fish Sting Relief "
Please stop by our shop !!!
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Posted: Wed May 30th, 2007 10:31 pm |
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I found the following article after I found some of these shells. They had a transparent jellyfish closing the hole on the shell. There were a lot of the blue bubbles the same day on the beach. There were two days of really rough seas about five days ago and they were all over the beach, also a circular, flat transparent jellyfish that looked like the bottom of a bottle and little (dime size) circular like disks with spokes around them. http://shells.tricity.wsu.edu/archerdshellcollection/Gastropoda/Janthinidae.html
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 05:27 am |
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| I saw the new strain of manawar 5 miles out. I was swimming and came very close to a good sting. It is cylander and has yellow speckles. Dead (blue) jellyfish on the beach can hurt badly when stepped on, live manawar can stop you from ever going back in the ocean. I'm hoping for a jelly free summer!
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Posted: Fri Jun 1st, 2007 02:30 pm |
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Can you describe the size and shape? Any chance you got a picture?
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2007 04:34 am |
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Having been stung many times over the last 30 yrs., a good rule of thumb is to not pull affected area out of the water until you swirl the affected area to remove the man of war. NEVER RUB THE AREA!! Then apply Adolph's Meat Tenderizer in a paste form. Area should start to recover in about 30 min. to one hr. 
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2007 05:48 am |
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Yes, don't rub the area. I've heard that you can scrape the area with a credit card (AMEX works best ). Vinegar will help neutralize, and I've heard urine in a pinch, it's sterile. If stung you have nematocysts stuck in your skin! They are individual stinging cells and react at a primal level.
It's been my experience that most of these stinging creatures are located in the upper water layer, where one would do a 3-minute stop. Maybe look up when ascending to your safety stop. 
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