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Vince Radice
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 04:34 pm |
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As many of you may have heard there are some commercial fishing boats out there that would appear to be from another country and have been heard speaking perhaps Japanese or Korean on channel 68, does anyone have any pictures of the boats. If so please send them to me.
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Posted: Tue Jun 23rd, 2009 10:38 pm |
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Vince,
I heard them on Saturday, and I picked out what sounded like Japanese, although I must admit I don't know for sure. I am wondering why Asian commercial boats would move into this area and suddenly decide to use the local channel 68?
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 01:45 am |
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Am trying to get some info on this. I may be calling the port captain over it since they will have to have information regarding the vessels, will they share that info? That is another question entirely.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 02:02 am |
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| Sounds like you were hearing the Don boys speaking in code.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 02:44 am |
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| I ave seen asian frieghters near Ilse San Marcos to pick up gypsum
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 06:13 am |
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I guess the coast of San Carlos is in-between two major ports then. Wherever they were from, their captain was a little out of the 50 mi (or KM?) zone of the coast.
I've seen them twice, but they were not fishing.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2009 03:07 pm |
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you can not be out of the 50 mile zone here, the gulf is only 70 miles wide. Did you get any pictures? When and where did you see the boat?
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 01:11 am |
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It is my understanding that there are two of these boats: a black/white and a red/white. Yes, w/helicopters. I first saw the black/white on May 23rd headed from the 180 up the reef. I never saw it again until June 17th or 18th when it was headed for Miramar. It stayed two days and nights between hole in the rock and Miramar then on the 20th at 10PM at night it showed up about 1/2 mile off bahia tomate with lights ablazin. It looked like a floating city. Then on Monday, June 22nd I saw it again headed North up the coast as I was coming in from fishing. I saw the red/white one yesterday between Cabo Haro and Haystack about a mile off headed Northwest. The small white commercial long line boat that was in the bay over the weekend was with the Black/white when it stayed at Miramar. The large boats have no markings and are flying no flags. The small boat had markings - a letter followed by a number and that was all. Hope someone gets pictures soon.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 02:05 am |
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Did you get a look at the crew members? Where they latin or asian? No pics?
thanks for the info.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 02:16 am |
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Sorry, have not had my camera w/me but will start carrying it. Spoke to one of the Captains out of Marina San Carlos and he said the crew he saw were Latin (on the Black/white) however that does not explain the language we are hearing on channel 68 once inawhile. Why on 68 - maybe they know our fishing channel. Do you think these two vessels could be leased by the Asians out of Ensanada w/Latin crew???? Any thing is possible at this point. When I saw all those lights the other night I thought they were fishing for squid but that doesn't quite fit either.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:42 am |
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 Wonder if it is the same boat that has been over by Mulege for the last few days. Also reported down by Loreto a couple weeks ago.
Last edited on Thu Jun 25th, 2009 03:43 am by Hook
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:22 am |
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Will be looking into it, thanks for the pics!
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:44 am |
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The boat Maria Rosana, after a quick googling, appears to be out of Ensenada. What you are seeing is the result of over exploitation of the pacific tuna fishery. Since the tuna populations are diminishing boats such as these that would rarely come this far up the gulf will now do so if they feel that they can catch tuna. It is my understanding that tuna fishing is completely legal within the gulf and it is unlikely that anything could be done about this vessel since it is breaking no laws. Now if a bunch of Sport fishing boats got out there and started circling them and causing a bit of a rucus, I bet if a guy took some video of that it would make some news. The same thing happened down in cabo last april when a boat not unlike this one, perhaps the same boat, was tuna fishing just a stones throw from Cabo. Everyone was up in arms & the story made headlines down there.
The other boat that was mentioned was a commerical long liner, that dude is almost certinaly fishing dorado, did anyone get a picture of that one, the black and white one that had no name on it only numbers. That boat was up to no good.
Welcome to the future!!!
On another note I spoke with my NOAA contact today. Lots of dorado has been crossing the border through Nogales, much of it from Guaymas. Thats right the officials at NOAA will not act unless someone from the Mexican government requests it. Also got a report of long lines out there today. Looks like it might be business as usuall again this summer.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 06:48 am |
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http://tunaseiners.com/blog/nggallery/page-1073/slideshow/
A picture of this tuna boat can be seen in a slide show presentation following the link above.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 01:16 pm |
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| Thanks Vince---great info.
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 05:31 pm |
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Looks like the Maria Rosana was spotted in Loreto and created a commotion a couple of weeks ago. Scroll down to the June 9, 2009 post.
http://www.bajabigfish.com/pescadoresvigilantes.html
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 07:04 pm |
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So if these are Mexican Vessels ,this still does not explain the Asian chatter on the Radio ? they speak alot on channel 74 ??
Maybe Mega bite's theroy is correct ?
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Posted: Thu Jun 25th, 2009 08:08 pm |
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| it is mexican registration vessel numbers
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Posted: Fri Jun 26th, 2009 03:31 am |
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the chinese guys might not be fishing or hauling gypsum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhenli_Ye_Gon
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