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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 08:27 pm |
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After The Camera/rules committee Reviewed The Photo's from the Billfish Blow out I had a chance to Look through them.I learned a lot Most Importantly I learned what Not to do.here were my Observations
1) My guess would be at least 50% of the Photo's Taken Had Fingers , but no fish, or Only a Shadow ..I can only guess the Camera Man could see the fish but the Camera could Not..TAKE OFF YOUR POLARIZED SUN GLASSES IF YOU ARE SHOOTING THE PIC'S....I plan to take a Left over Tournament Camera and Tape a Polarized Sunglass Lense over it , then take some Photo's and see if they turn out...if It works we may all want to try this trick to assure the Camera can see The fish ?? will keep you posted
2) Aftco Makes some New Really cool release Gloves for handling billfish Thier great, However They're the exact same color blue as the water, Jarrod on our team used them and I had to get a Magnifying glass out to see how many fingers he was holding out.on some photo's there was no way to tell...DO NOT USE BLUE GLOVES...yellow works the best
3) Be Careful on the angle you hold your fingers to the Camera, In many cases it was hard to see if it was 3 fingers or 4 fingers..I liked the Photos best when the Camera Man Held there fingers out for the Photos ??
4) Most Teams took 3-4 Pic's of each fish, I was surprised how Many did not Come Out.No fish, no fingers, some times just a splash..NO MATTER WHAT ALWAYS TAKE AT LEAST 3 PICS OF EVERY FISH .....
Last Year Our Camera Cost team Catch-22 around 14,000.00 dollars ..In fact we are Fisherman Not Photographers but it is a Very Important part of the Team and something to think about
Hope this Helps
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 10:51 pm |
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Steve
Very informative post. I would like to comment and make a suggestion on the "dreaded" picture proof. The only true way to ensure a good photo of a fish is to wire the fish to the boat, get a hold of it and pose it. This kind of manhandling is detrimental to the fish, wire person and the photographer. I fear this primitive method of proof will only end after some poor soul sustains an injury during a release and sues the tournament. We keep talking of having fishing technique seminars, perhaps we should hold a photography class!
Since I got booed off the stage for suggesting observers, how about an sensible alternative. We encourage multiple cameras for the Cantina Cup. We believe that everyone on the boat that is not fighting, driving or wiring should have a darned date stamped digital camera, still or video, filming the release of every fish. Lets face it, even top of the line disposable cameras are suspect in quality. This way there can be backup proof of released fish.
I realize that announcing and recording times of release will require extra work for tournament control but having extra proof never hurts when settling a dispute.
Suerte
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 11:12 pm |
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You're too late Steve...save the tape!
Polarized filters have been available for a number of years..(40-50) for cameras. However, they limit the light entering the camera too. They do work, but it's hard to find a 'happy' medium while using them. Actually, Fernando owns one of them.
Especially if you happen to be in a big hurry!! (which is the case for fish photography)
Good showing in the tourny....I was pulling for Catch 22 the whole way!!!
Rick
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 11:40 pm |
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| Rick- we use cheap disposable Cameras for the tournaments...any Idea's ??
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 12:12 am |
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It's awfully hard for someone not familar with cameras to take good photos, especially when things are moving FAST.
1. Try to keep the Sun at your back, so you aren't shooting into shadows.
2. Don't be in such a hurry, you blow the shot!!
3. Get the fish ON board if possible for shots....(I know that's not possible all the time, but if it's a BIG fish...)
4. Use the fastest disposable cameras possible....400 Film Speed or faster. This is the biggest tip I can give you!!!
That's about all I can add.....
As a side note.....I AM available for World Record Fishing photos. If it's not a World Record Gamefish, it will be by the time I get thru with it!!
Take a look at Fernando's 6 Ft+ 180 Lb Yellowtail....
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 12:32 am |
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one more rather basic thing which was an issue on many pics from my latest trip, and which Steve's post seems to indicate is sometimes a problem for others too: hold the dang camera with 2 hands!
this helps making sure the intended subject is IN the photo, and with modern autofocus cameras, i think a bouncing boat makes it hard for the autofocus to work right since the distance to subject is constantly changing and you get focus problems if camera is bouncing too much
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 01:15 am |
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barato wrote: one more rather basic thing which was an issue on many pics from my latest trip, and which Steve's post seems to indicate is sometimes a problem for others too: hold the dang camera with 2 hands!
this helps making sure the intended subject is IN the photo, and with modern autofocus cameras, i think a bouncing boat makes it hard for the autofocus to work right since the distance to subject is constantly changing and you get focus problems if camera is bouncing too much
The disposable cameras aren't autofocus.....
It's awfully hard to hold the camera w/both hands because they are SO small. Plus, that gives you 5 more things to worry about. (fingers)
The faster film speed (400) should help with camera shake, and help eliminate movement. (blur) As well as help in the 'shadows'.
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 01:17 am |
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Rixx wrote: It's awfully hard for someone not familar with cameras to take good photos, especially when things are moving FAST.
1. Try to keep the Sun at your back, so you aren't shooting into shadows.
2. Don't be in such a hurry, you blow the shot!!
3. Get the fish ON board if possible for shots....(I know that's not possible all the time, but if it's a BIG fish...)
4. Use the fastest disposable cameras possible....400 Film Speed or faster. This is the biggest tip I can give you!!!
That's about all I can add.....
As a side note.....I AM available for World Record Fishing photos. If it's not a World Record Gamefish, it will be by the time I get thru with it!!
Take a look at Fernando's 6 Ft+ 180 Lb Yellowtail....
how did you come up with 180lbs looks like 45lbs to me ?
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 02:27 am |
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I actually meant for it to be 80 Lb.
So, how big do you think this one is........???
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 02:49 am |
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 02:51 am |
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The slimy one or the one that's bleeding? 
jeje!
No Sniveling......
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 03:30 am |
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I remember that fish put up a hell of a fight  
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 07:57 am |
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it gets bigger each time watchPQ Almada wrote: I remember that fish put up a hell of a fight
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 08:12 am |
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Don't hurt your shoulder again Fernando by holding such a large fish up.
Maybe we all need to practice taking one handed pictures of our fingers out with gloves on in rocky seas. We had a fun time trying to get pictures during the last day of the Cantina Cup with only three on-board. It helps to have an extra hand.
I haven't had too many disposable cameras developed but one I remember last year had more than a third of the pictures not develop at all.
I guess get those digital cameras ready with the time entered, etc.
Get those captains to put the boat in gear when the fish is at the boat.
Grab the bill down from the tip so that you don't break off the tip of their bill - do stay clear of the hooks though. Keep the head in the water and away from you until picture time.
It all takes a little practice, even the picture taking. Maybe even buy a disposable and practice. It might be some good use of those cameras from those tournaments you don't care to remember.
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Posted: Thu Jul 10th, 2008 09:19 pm |
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I've reviewed many of the tournament photos as well. A couple of other things.
USE THE VIEW FINDER - I know that sounds basic, but people think they can get better aim of a fish by holding the camera away from the boat, shooting the photo back at it. That's really hard to do.
I agree the best shots are the ones where the camera man is the one holding up the hand gesture as requested by tournament control. It's good for the camera man to do it as well as another crew member who is in the shot. Better chance that you can see it.
If you are the camera man holding your hand up, make sure you're not blocking the fish with your hand.
Happy Fishing, Matt
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 03:35 pm |
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I think we should use the honor syetem it worked so well in High School 
If ever anyone needs a code 1 shot I am your guy. Otherwise see if you can steal Fernado he is a great phothrapher.
SF
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Posted: Wed Jul 16th, 2008 08:29 pm |
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Ohh Pl-easse
What u think of this one
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