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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 04:20 pm |
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Stocking up on some trolling plugs for San Carlos. What color(s) do you recommend?
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 04:28 pm |
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Black, purple, green, yellow, blue and my favorite for tuna good old fashion lead head ceder plug you know the wood ones 
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 04:46 pm |
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On my trips to SC I have had good luck with blue/white and greens. The bleeding dorado mix is also good. Pink seems to turn on sails and dorado. Ask Steve what he uses..he is dragging stuff every day when fish are there.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 10:56 pm |
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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 01:56 am |
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Hi Smokie,
By plugs do you trolling lures, or more like plugs that you can cast at boiling skip jack or other species that you might be sight casting to?
Speaking of lures, I tend to keep an arsenol of colors, mostly because it seems that there is a hot color of the week. Not sure how true that is, but it feeds my addiction anyway.
Take a look a couple of threads down on this forum. I posted about Dulcecita Lures. I listed the colors in order of the photo. Petrolero (grey, orange, black, white) is a popular color as is: pink/white, pink/blue, red/black, red/white, green/black, green/white, green/yellow, purple/black (very popular), blue/white, mexican flag, all black, dorado (dolphinfish), lumo (it's a pakula brand lure, but popular color combo), and other hybrid color mixes. I have a lure that I don't even know what color you would call it, but catches lots of fish.
Depending on how you're stocking up, the closer to San Carlos and the Sea of Cortez you can get for your tackle supplier, the better chance they can recommend what sells a lot and what works best. Star Marine is a good local bet in San Carlos, and also Marine Mart has fishing tackle. Tackleman's (Dennis) has good knowledge of San Carlos, and also Blue Water Tackle & Saguaro Tackle can help.
Also, remember to have a couple of cedar plugs on hand. Natural wood seems to work as well as any.
I don't have much experience on casting plugs, but would keep red/white, blue/white, and silver as my first choices...not really sure why.
There's a lot of better fishermen on this board that might have better recommendations depending on the type of fishing you're planning on.
Happy Fishing! Matt
PS - sorry, I thought I sent this earlier and just found it waiting to be submitted
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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 03:48 pm |
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| I'm going to pick up some of Yo-Zuri's new Sashimi lures. They actually change color, depending on the angle that you are looking at them, like true bait fish. Very prismatic. Wish I could translate that to skirted lures!
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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 03:55 pm |
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Just a warning I would highly recommend to avoid buying any DULCECITA LURES every time I use them I pull a hamstring loading all the fish they catch
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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 09:18 pm |
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Maybe you should be using your arms and legs to haul in fish instead of your legs...
Can't wait to get on teh water tomorrow for a shakedown and the island if the wind dies down on Monday
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 02:50 pm |
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Thanks for everyone's input. Will pick up natural cedar plugs and iron. My color question was directed at something like this for trolling:
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&partNumber=72348&hvarTarget=search&cmCat=SearchResults
By the way, I saw a fishing show on tv yesterday where they were catching YT casting butterfly jigs at boiling tuna off the coast of Florida.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 04:48 pm |
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Those are high-speed tuna and wahoo plugs, meant to troll at 5-10 kts for surface fish.
If you are looking for trolling lures for yellowtail, sierra, cabrilla, and other in-shore and San Pedro trolling, you want Rapalas or Mirrolures. The CD14 and CD18, XRap 25 and Xrap30, or Mirrolure 111 and 112, are the most popular. Favorite colors are RedHead, FireTiger, Orange/Yellow, Mackerel (green or blue), and Natural Cedar in the CD14-18.
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Examples: Firetiger Mirrolure 112, CD18 Natural (entirely engulfed!), 160qts of yellowtail.
  
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Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 11:26 pm |
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You know what guys? I've been fishing for over 60 years. I landed my first cuthroat trout on a fly rod in 1947 (with my dad's coaching). I've been actively fishing the ocean at every chance for over 40 years. I believe I have used almost any method of procuring fish (mostly legal) and lure known to man including many I have concieved and made myself. When the old wooden Flatfish (R) cost $4.00 to $6.00 apiece, I whittled my own out which worked just as well as the store-bought ones. I had a Siletz native American who did it for a living teach me how to make "cedar plugs" out of almost any kind of wood that was available. I've hammered out my own spoons on an anvil with a ball peen hammer. I've used nail polish and model paint of almost every imaginable color. I've even used plastic bags of all colors to make skirts for lures, and a lot of them worked as well as anything I bought. I've also done my part to support the lure companies as my wife has often reminded me. If I see something new that intrigues me, I'll usually buy it, or try to manufacture a facsimile. (I gotta try one of those prizmatic lures now. Thanks Stuart.)
I don't claim to be an expert because I'm often "outfished", but I seem to learn something new every time I go fishing, and I try to learn from others whenever possible. One thing I have come to regard as a truism: Almost anything of any color that remotely resembles prey will trigger a strike response from a predatory fish. Often times, even it doesn't even look like any kind of prey (from my perspective) it will trigger a strike. I've caught fish on nearly every color of the spectrum. I have my favorites from time to time, with reds, whites, and silvers being predominant as a fall-back, but almost anything will work at almost any given time. I think we learn to catch fish by experimentation, just as I believe a fish needs to learn to feed by experimentation. I've found things with no nutritional value in fish's stomachs. I listen to what they seem to be hitting on most, and usually try that. Sometimes when they seem to be hitting black lures the most, and I think it ought to be better, I'll throw someting white at them sometimes with good results, sometimes not. I try to take as wide a variety of colors, sizes, and shapes with me as I can with as many back-up doubles as my tackle box has room for. That's part of the fun of fishing for me. One of the main tricks for catching fish is having your line in the water for as long as possible. That's my two pesos worth.
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 12:53 am |
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bahiatrader wrote:
You know what guys? I've been fishing for over 60 years. I landed my first cuthroat trout on a fly rod in 1947 (with my dad's coaching). I've been actively fishing the ocean at every chance for over 40 years. I believe I have used almost any method of procuring fish (mostly legal) and lure known to man including many I have concieved and made myself. When the old wooden Flatfish (R) cost $4.00 to $6.00 apiece, I whittled my own out which worked just as well as the store-bought ones. I had a Siletz native American who did it for a living teach me how to make "cedar plugs" out of almost any kind of wood that was available. I've hammered out my own spoons on an anvil with a ball peen hammer. I've used nail polish and model paint of almost every imaginable color. I've even used plastic bags of all colors to make skirts for lures, and a lot of them worked as well as anything I bought. I've also done my part to support the lure companies as my wife has often reminded me. If I see something new that intrigues me, I'll usually buy it, or try to manufacture a facsimile. (I gotta try one of those prizmatic lures now. Thanks Stuart.)
I don't claim to be an expert because I'm often "outfished", but I seem to learn something new every time I go fishing, and I try to learn from others whenever possible. One thing I have come to regard as a truism: Almost anything of any color that remotely resembles prey will trigger a strike response from a predatory fish. Often times, even it doesn't even look like any kind of prey (from my perspective) it will trigger a strike. I've caught fish on nearly every color of the spectrum. I have my favorites from time to time, with reds, whites, and silvers being predominant as a fall-back, but almost anything will work at almost any given time. I think we learn to catch fish by experimentation, just as I believe a fish needs to learn to feed by experimentation. I've found things with no nutritional value in fish's stomachs. I listen to what they seem to be hitting on most, and usually try that. Sometimes when they seem to be hitting black lures the most, and I think it ought to be better, I'll throw someting white at them sometimes with good results, sometimes not. I try to take as wide a variety of colors, sizes, and shapes with me as I can with as many back-up doubles as my tackle box has room for. That's part of the fun of fishing for me. One of the main tricks for catching fish is having your line in the water for as long as possible. That's my two pesos worth.
Seems contradictory, that color doesn't matter, but you take as many different lures as you can, and two of each of the "good ones"....
I can tell you of at least three recent trips trolling for yellowtail (they just would NOT hit a jig) where one lure, and one lure only got ALL of the strikes. In January on a trip with Mark Austin, it was a Red Head XRAP 30 (MARK STILL HAS THAT ONE!). During the Yellowtail Tournament, it was the Orange/yellow/red CD 18 - Fernando's winning fish destroyed it and we never caught another. Last time, it was the blue mackerel XRAP 25 that was hot - we pulled the red head, orange, fire tiger, and nothing on anything but the blue mackerel.
We won't EVEN talk about trolling skirted lures for surface fish...............
Just my 20 centavos..
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Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 01:51 am |
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| I think color does matter, but it needs to be the right color at the right time. I haven't got that one figured out yet except to take a lot of different colors.. Last edited on Wed Apr 30th, 2008 01:54 am by bahiatrader
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