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Bill Hale
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Posted: Mon Apr 7th, 2008 11:22 pm |
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I got a Sea Ray 19 with an ONC I/O Chevy short block 5.7 liter Eng.
As it has been sitting for about 5 years the first thing I plan on doing is to get it serviced and a new water pump in the outdrive. I will also get the Carb rebuilt and everything checked out. It does need a new boot on the outdrive but that is cheap as they will already have it off for the service. I found one on line for about $ 50.00. A service shop in Phoenix has quoted about $ 1000.00 for everything.
Boat is in good shape except minor stuff like the upholstry. Is there any place down there that does good work at a reasonable price. How much would you guess for all new, stern seating and Eng box , side walls, Capt and Mate chairs and the bow area.
It only has a 30 gal fuel tank. Right now I can easely add a 29 gal tank in the center storage area for about $ 300.00. Do you think I will need that much fuel ? We plan on going out and trrolling for Dorado etc.
I plan on adding a cut down 55 gal plastic barrel for a live bait tank. I can recess it a little in to the deck and shorten it to seat height. With an added backrest and a cushion on top I thought it will make a fighting seat. If I set it 14" in front of the Eng box you could put your feet against the box while fighting a fish. Comments please.
How much anchor rope shoud I have for down there when reef fishing for larger bottom fish ?
Est cost to dry store and on call put into the water in a slip for about a week at a time.
Thanks Bill
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 03:22 pm |
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Bill
I'll try to answer these or point you to answers with the caveat that a 19 footer is iffy for use in these waters-going to be a lot more days when you can't go out than you could in a larger boat-with that said.....
Marine Mart does upholstery and redid the coaming pads, seats and cushions on my boat-cost was arond $400 bucks. Hard to estimate without knowing how much surface area has to be redone. There are also independents in the area so shop around.
Adding fuel tank and bait tank. Concern is the added weight in a 19 footer. 29 gallons of gas adds over 217 pounds and half of your 55 gallon barrel filled with water adds 220 pounds, plus the weight of the empty tanks. That is a significant increase in weight (equal to 2.5+ 170 pound persons). It is going to have a very serious impact on performance, because that weight is fixed in place. I would skip the bait tank completely or go to something much smaller and more portable. My 29 footer does not have that large a bait tank on it and it is removeable.
3-400 ft of good quality anchor line with chain rode on the anchor.
Storage and slip costs, with tractor in/out service is online-see the links to the two marinas on our Marine Services page on the main web site.
Hope that helps-good luck with your project
Bart
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Mega Bite
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Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 06:10 pm |
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Bill:
I don't think you have the right boat to start with for your proposed use.
this would be a great boat for the lakes and reservoirs but not going out for dorado.
you may be able to fish in front for skipjack, yellowtail and bottom fish on the better days
otherwise I think you are taking too much risk - the seas can change very fast here (glassy at 8AM to 8 footers by noon)
Tom
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Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 11:28 pm |
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Why don't you buy my 23 footer that still leaves me wishing for more boat. It's great when seas are good, gets good fuel economy, and gets a little "bumpy" when going through rough stuff that comes out of nowhere. Like last April when Catch 22 Steve radioed "Craig, are you still 25 miles out? Just wanted to let you know there are 5 to 6 footers for the last 10 miles in..."
PS: It's not really for sale, just sharing war stories.....
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Posted: Tue Apr 8th, 2008 11:48 pm |
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| As I type this I am looking at my 23 ft sea ray which I would never take to San Carlos unless I were going skiing & that sort of lake type boating Bottom line you own a lake boat!!!!! Go to San Carlos & charter a fishing boat & enjoy yourself
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 03:02 am |
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| So what would an appropriate size boat be? I am looking at a 24' Sea Ray that while paying attention to the weather I thought would be adequate, not my dream boat but at this point in my life and career my dream is going to be just that for awhile.
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 03:24 am |
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Appropriate size?
65' viking is good
minimum? I fished this boat (and had alot of fun) for 5 years in San Carlos
21 feet
http://www.hydrasports.com/mInfo.cfm?mid=5279
self bailing cockpit, 85 gallons of fuel
took it across to loreto, mulege and santa rosalia, I went out in all weather
I have seen other 21 center console and cuddy cabins, meant for rough water, fishing out there also
you might be ok w/ a 23, it depends on how the boat is configured and how it takes the waves
there is a big difference between a 19' and a 23'
Most opt for an outboard (fuel injected or fourstrole) I/O's have a short lifespan in an offshore saltwater applicatoin
I have never seen a 19' searay style boat more than a mile or two offshore
I have seen 25' class searay aft cabin style boats out fishing
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 03:38 am |
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A lot comes into play when going for comfort and safety, with weight and hull design playing as much into the equation as length. A deep, heavy, stable 23' x 9 1/2' boat like Catch 22 Rubina (Grady White Gulfstream 23 Wide) is great for most conditions you'd want to try to fish in. My light plywood 23' x 8' VeeGull weighs half what Rubina does and bobs like a cork, pounding you in sloppy seas. I've been to Tortuga and back and done several 45+ mile runs south - I've also turned back after 5 miles and said "We need a bigger boat". On good days, I run 110 miles on $80 worth of fuel and smile - on bad days, I go with a friend who has a bigger boat  .
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 03:57 am |
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| well put
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 04:10 am |
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| The 24' Sea Ray has a 100-110 gallon gas tank, not sure of the beam I'm guessing about 8'. It is configured with a Mercury 225 outboard which is mounted on about a 2' bracket that doubles as the live well which I have never seen anything like it but seems like an interesting way to save cockpit space. I also have not sea trialed it yet but the seller swears it was designed and weighted to sit properly in the water. I have only owned lake boats so do not know if it is considered to be a really deep V but it is much larger and deeper than anything I have ever used. I appreciate any and all comments because until I pick the correct 6 numbers I will need to be conscious of the pricing. Thanks.
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 04:14 am |
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what year?
do you have pic's /link
model name?
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 12:51 pm |
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here is a picture, the bracket the motor is mounted on can be filled with water and is open on the top for access to live bait.
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Posted: Wed Apr 9th, 2008 12:56 pm |
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| Oops, I got so excited that I could post a picture I forgot to post the rest. The seller says it is a 1973 24' Day Cruiser and that is how it is registered, the problem is when I checked the archives at Sea Ray for 1973 there is no listing that they made a 24' in 1973.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10th, 2008 08:48 pm |
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I think it will take the waves great
I would give that boat a definite maybe vs I would suggest no on the 19 footer
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 12:13 am |
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This will be my 2nd full season in San Carlos fishing from a 21ft open center console T-Top with a single Johnson 115 Hp outboard. 25 miles is my limit. It is usually only myself and one of the local first mates that I hire that have spent their whole lives fishing off San Carlos. I would not go more than 1/2 mile off shore with anything smaller or anthing that is not set up to handle 6 to 8 ft wind chop. My boat (and I) get real wet on the way back in when the wind kicks up. Make sure that you don't bring anything (or anyone) along who is not prepared for what the Sea of Cortez can throw at you. I have had 3.5 hour runs back from 25 miles taking full force wind waves in the face every 30 seconds, and having the bilge pump running full time just to keep up. Saftey equipment includes ... Offshore life vests with Strobe lights, Horns, Flares, and a hand held VHF and water in a bright yellow water tight bag attached to a bright orange float. Also GPS chart plotter and two console mounted VHF radios. I will also have one of the new Spot GPS personal trackers this year. $149 plus $99 per year service. I also have at least four other boats that know me by name now, so at least one might answer a distress call now, right guys? ... GUYS??? And I still feel like I'm pushing the limits!
Anyway, the Sea of Cortez is no place to learn things the hard way.
Looking forward to another great year! See ya real soon.
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 01:27 am |
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hey Bill, check the boat listings in the mercado section-dickrep may have solved your problem
Bart
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Posted: Fri Apr 11th, 2008 10:26 pm |
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MegaBite?
Where was that picture taken and did everyone return home? Very scary picture?
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 02:05 am |
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That is a picture of No Sniveling towing Steve Calvert on a wake board...he has just fallen off, causing a tsunami, and that is Fernando tumbling backwards in my boat, unable to stand up from the concussion! 
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 01:26 pm |
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| That is the scariest pictue to me, but I do know how the Sea of Cortez can change from a "pond" to a raging sea. Thanks
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Posted: Sat Apr 12th, 2008 10:15 pm |
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| One addition I might make to what dflybldr said about safety equipment: I always, whenever I go in my own boat or somebody else's, carry three small items that can't weigh more than a couple pounds total. No matter what kind of navigation and communication equipment is on the boat I always carry a pocket sized GPS, a hand-held marine radio and a cell phone. I've communicated across 40 miles of ocean with that little radio. I carry my cell phone for if and when I can't raise anybody on the radio. It was a lifesaver once when we were 17 mi. offshore, and Cholla Bay Rescue wasn't manning their radio. I usually wear baggy pockets when I go fishing, so they never get in the way. Even if I get thrown overboard, I can always look out for number one. I don't want to become one of those miraculous survival stories, or worse.
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