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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 08:25 pm |
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We saw a large Pod of killer whales today, 20 or so ...They were here last year around the same time and spent 2 weeks eating Humbolt Squid..Looks like there doing the same thing this year.One Mile out Straight in front of Doble point.We will send a Camera and Film crew out Thursday..stay tuned
Tight Lines
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 09:55 pm |
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STEVE how much to go out and see them on catch 22 & should we pack a lunch
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 11:03 pm |
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Fernando,
My friend has offered to send his high-end, underwater video camera down for you to film with. Are you going to get in with Shamu?? You can use my wetsuit, but try to not look like a seal (hmmmm, black and purple - our favorite lure colors!).
 Craig
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 05:02 am |
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| Look, I will jump in with the camera if you buy the beer. I used to dream of working at Sea World as a kid and think I can pull this off unharmed. If I am harmed I guess it wil not have been the smartest thing to do. I will be down with my cousin John who was a football player and he could probably tackle one of those big things if they come after me. Craig I will start studying all the old training videos from Sea World if you wanna hook me up with the camera. Just let me know. We are heading down for some bottom fishing on the 15th. To avoid further delay of my certain death please let me know when to pick up the camera. In anticipation I jumped on a movie review website that had a reviewer state the best way to avoid being eaten is to NOT kill a baby Orca and or be female sitting alone in a house with a leg in a cast. The Movie?
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 05:24 am |
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| Killer whales or Humpback whales? Is it not almost birthing time for humpbacks at Colorado? My husband caught many Humbolt squid while on a fishing trip. they seem to be plentiful, yaay for the whales!!! We also enjoyed them.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 08:16 am |
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Tantrum, jumping in with a pod of NOMADIC killer whales sounds like a very dumb idea to me. I hope you were joking. I am not an expert but I did stay at a holiday inn express once and I do recall reading that there are two very distinctly different types of orcas out there, although they look identical, the behavioral differences between these two types is night and day. In fact when passing each other, pods of both groups will not even aknowlege each other which scientists find very strange because they are such social animals. The first type live their whole lives in the same area and feed on fish. They become accustomed to humans out whale watching and generally ignore the humans. This type can be found in areas like puget sound. The second type travel great distances along the west coast of the US seeking out mammals to eat. This second type will actively hunt down and kill anything in their path that breathes air or is another top level predator but will ignore fish. You should research this further before even considering getting in the water. I saw a video on youtube ( I think it was youtube) showing one band of nomadic orcas passing through the monterey california bay. If I recall correctly the one the scientists from monterey aquarium named #7 was the the meanest animal I have ever heard of. The Monterey guys had tons of video of #7 killing any mammal it could catch. This #7 and his pod chased a group of porpoise for hours just so he could kill them. Then his pod, over a course of a couple of hours absolutely destroyed a california grey whale calf. My facts might be a little fuzzy so I urge you to research this yourself.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 02:39 pm |
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Begees2 - Hola Yes Killer Whales, they have been here every year for the past 3 years in Jan. & Feb. Last year I watched them eating Homblot Squid, I have also seen them in the Summer in 89 deg. water..Go figure? here is the video from last year...
Steve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOLV2utEqdQ
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 04:10 pm |
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Hot of the press here is a Pic of the Killer whales
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 04:32 pm |
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Great photo Steve & Fernando! I can't wait to see the underwater video Tantrum
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 05:54 pm |
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| Great shot! I used to see killer whales in the Pacific Northwest but I was never able to get a photo. One of the reasons I love the Sea of Cortez is seeing whales and dolphins. I'll even stop fishing sometimes (if my buddies will agree) just to watch 'em and try to get photos. I envy you, but my wife won't live in Mexico any more. I guess we all have to make choices.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 06:16 pm |
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Another compelling video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lS3h_VQf7cA&feature=related
well enough inside on the New Boob Tube and off to the GYM for a couple hours.
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Posted: Thu Feb 28th, 2008 07:57 pm |
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Great video muy bien trabajo amigo!!
Oshow Tantrun is 100 % serious and if hes not well hes going in anyway!!
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:28 am |
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I hate to be one of those do gooders, politically correct whatevers, but they really are Orcas, and with all due respect there is no such thing as killer whales, and we are fisherman...let's call them what they are.
I had the experience of a lifetime to see them on our boat in puget sound. My wife and kids and I saw the dominant male do a full breach; and we had a mother and calf swim up to us from an angle off the stern, surface just before the boat and then dive under us and surface on the other side. My son, 12 yrs old at the time was looking over the first side and literally looked into the blowhole of the mother before she went under the boat. They were so close you would have thought they would have bumped the boat but they never touched it. Man, that is the stuff that keeps us spending a lot more money than you can ever justify to keep boating ! Later, the dominant male crossed in front of us about 30yds ahead, with a 5 ft dorsal fin, slowly went into the water with pics and memories I'll never forget. They are truly gorgeous, smart mammals.
Someone else mentioned the difference between resident and transient pods, and from what I know it's exactly correct. We saw a resident pod in Puget Sound which is fairly docile and eats the local fish. I assume the one's in SC are transient which will eat anything they can find. To my knowledge they do not attack or injure humans or boats. I would love to be there now to see them.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:51 am |
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| Friend I sailed with last summer had a dramatic experience with orcas while sailing in the Gulf of Maine. Orca from a small pod intentionally banged into their 35 foot sailboat several times, and then attempted to sink their trailing dinghy by repeatedly flinging water at it with its flukes. I saw pictures of the dinghy encounter. Pretty dramatic.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 03:17 am |
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Orcas or Killer Whales. . . . No Matter the name you chose and BTW laymen are far from the only ones who call them Killer Whales. . . there are enough Videos on You Tube about these and every other subject known to man to fill your evening.
IF you not acquainted with You Tube you may have a treat coming. . or not ? Depends on your point of view.
You can search for just about any topic, and find it good and not so good.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 01:57 pm |
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Killer Whales is a Common Popular Name, "Orcinus Orca" is the Scientific name...Don't we usually refer to Dolphin as Dolphin not "Delphinidae Delphis"? All Mammals are referred to as there common Name .. I guess that means you as a fisherman , assuming your fishing for Dorado should refer to yourself as a "Coryphaena Hippurus Homo Sapiens".. So with that said I'm going to the Island now to Catch some "Seriola Dorsalis Ialandi"
Have a great day
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:02 pm |
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| I think Steve spent the night at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:11 pm |
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Geeeezzzz !
I'm speechless and think I'll remain that way. Besides, any rebuttal would be like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 02:29 pm |
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"We're going to need a bigger encyclopedia!"
Chief Brody
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Posted: Fri Feb 29th, 2008 03:13 pm |
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Right on Steve! I didn't know San Carlos had a Holiday Inn, but you must have stayed there. A rose by any other name... If not for you, I may have never known the scientific name for yellowtail. Lots of critters are referred to by their common name which is often localized. I imagine that's why there is a taxonomic system of nomenclature. Killer whales or orcas, the largest member(s) of the dolphin family have also been called "blackfish". I will concede that science doesn't know or explain everything. There's debate over whether orca is one species or if there are up to 12 different sub-species or even separate species. Because they are such social, family oriented animals, it is assumed that they seldom, if ever change pods so inter breeding is not common. This would create divergent populations which could possibly evolve into separate species unable to successfully interbreed.
Growing up in the Pacific Northwest, I knew the king salmon as "chinook". When I referred to them as chinook in Alaska, I was almost always corrected that they were "king" salmon. Red salmon are kokanee, and dorado are also known as mahi mahi or dolphinfish depending on whether you are in Hawaii, Mexico, or Florida. Are you a fisherman or an angler? My dad used to say there was a difference. We have high wind warnings here on the Colorado river today, so I'm stuck at home again. Fisherman or angler, it's a bummer. A rose by any other name...
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