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tontotom
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 07:20 pm |
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I have been reading about these things on various sites. Do they have a place in San Carlos waters? Fred Archer makes big statements on their use in Pacific waters off California. He also manufactures them.
If anyone uses them what size of bar and how big are the baits attached?
Tom
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 08:30 pm |
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Fred is under attack on SCMO. He is one of those love'em or hate'em guys.
http://www.marlinnut.com/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=101&topic_id=36716&mesg_id=36716&page=
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Posted: Mon Feb 18th, 2008 10:13 pm |
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We never deployed ours during the Cantina cup with mullet, though I'm sure it would have been ugly (and expensive). As if the marlin that jumped around our boat for three minutes twirling the 16' long range wasn't enough. I'm sure a few of his buddies were questioning the taste of the four 12' squids above the teaser lure, and were trying to pull them off that segment of line. I should find some parachute chord.
We have burned out our bowling pin teaser pretty much but I think it worked great. It had a dancing dolphin behind it that looked really cool. It originally had a huge diving Mann that made it an intense pain to pull in. Our ballyhoo teaser looks pretty tantilizing. The strip teaser lasted a little while. I'll never give up the Witchdoctor, which my friend has more invitingly named Mr. Bo Jangles. I think that simple may go better here, or work just as well - and be much easier to deploy.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 05:34 pm |
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Yep he is Just Like Spreader Bars, you either love them or hate them, I for one hate them (Not him) .There hard to use and a real pain in the Butt..I love my witchdocter, With a Squid Daisey Chain straight above it .The Marlin go nuts...and the surface swiming Squid are very easy to pull on your teaser reels
Good Luck
Catch-22 Steve
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 08:35 pm |
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Here is a link to something else to trip over in the cockpit.
http://marlin-x.com/index.htm
Kind of mezmorizing to watch.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 12:17 am |
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I like the comments about the witchdoctor. Never used one but you have me on the order line. I have used the bowling pin type a lot..in dorado or bonito colors. I have several that really need a new paint job from the wahoo bites and bills working them. They seem to work really well and are easy to use. I just hook them to about 40 feet of 400# mono and drag them in the whitewater. They run below it and I think they are easy to see from below. At any rate, they help bring in the fish. I have not used the newer multiple bowling bowl rigs but the look good. The squid daisy chain also works well for me..usually in dark blue or a brown colored squid. I like the 9 inch ones from moldcraft and put a medium mold craft chugger behind it. It seems to work really well..usually run it from low on the outrigger just to be in the blue water and about 20 or 30 feet from the boat. And, I actually like the spreader bars. We use them with small, hollow squid..about 6 or 8 inches long, usually in a brownish color. Pink is ok if you are after dorado or sails. I tried arming the last one like recommended and that usually resulted in a hell of a mess. Now I run them low off the outrigger and just place the hook bait about 8 or 10 feet behind them using the outrigger. The spreaders will raise a lot of stuff..dorado, tuna and billfish actually get in the middle and try to rip off the squid. I have had bills get wrapped up..thats a hoot. Anyway, behind them I run something to catch what we are targeting...a moldcraft chugger in blue white or yellow green is a pretty good choice for the surface stuff and a bullet jet like the polo kai in blue pink or maybe yellow green is a really good choice for tuna. I tried the Fred thing of running several spreader bars and it was just too much work for me. Running one is pretty easy and without the armed bait it is easy to use without getting all balled up.
Wish I was fishing instead of sitting in front of a computer.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 08:15 pm |
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Catch-22 wrote: Yep he is Just Like Spreader Bars, you either love them or hate them, I for one hate them (Not him) .There hard to use and a real pain in the Butt..I love my witchdocter, With a Squid Daisey Chain straight above it .The Marlin go nuts...and the surface swiming Squid are very easy to pull on your teaser reels
Good Luck
Catch-22 Steve
Steve... Are you saying the WD is below the surface and the squids above it? Or are you saying , from the boat is first the WD and then behind are the squids?? Or, please explain so a rookie(me) can understand..
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tontotom
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 09:04 pm |
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Thanks for the information. I have a 21' boat and don't want to get too much stuff I don't need or will clutter without producing.
I would also like to know about the squid you run above the Witchdoctor. Are the teasers or do they have a lure trailing? Do you pull the WD in when you get a fish on?
Tom
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 10:03 pm |
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Hola- The WD. swims sub surface and NEVER comes up...yep the Squid chain is above it and maybe 3 feet behind it....
hope this helps
Steve
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 10:19 pm |
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| Keep the witchdoctor out when a school of dorado are around, and at a few knots they are entranced like dopers staring at a disco ball. In Hawaii we always threw out a large skipjack which kept them around. Like Steve we keep our ballyhoo spreader ahead of the witchdoctor and I have yet to have a fish mess with it. Run a bait or jig a wave back though and they'll be on that. If you go with a single large lure teaser then be ready to pull it in if a big one is hungry.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 09:34 pm |
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We make custom spreader bars..for the Northeast USA tuna fishery.
from 18" - 48"
professionally rigged custom teasers and squids..
you can see them here:
http://stores.ebay.com/CanyonGear-Big-Game-Fishing-Tackle_W0QQsspagenameZMEQ3aFQ3aSTQQtZkm
or email for pics: canyongear@hotmail.com
Capt Tim
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