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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 09:37 pm |
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From the TIP's that we have done online, I can tell you that it takes at least 2 weeks. I am worried that you would end up having to postpone your trip if the TIP does not arrive.
I would suggest you get it at the border.
The TIP is required for all boats over 14 feet entering Mexican Territory. There is no law (at this time) that specifies that there is a 7 day period in which you do not need this document.
If anyone is interested in more information, please contact me directly at heidi@marinasancarlos.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 19th, 2008 11:15 pm |
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Chinook, 50 bucks for 10 years if you get it at the border OR an iffy situation where you might not need it when you launch at SC but you may be asked for it at ports you call into. At that point, it's your living quarters they are questioning you about and your tow vehicle is hundreds of miles away.
Seems like a pretty easy decision to me............
A couple years ago there was some question as to why this applied to the free zones but it certainly appears that it does.
With the demise of the fishing boat permit, fees have actually been reduced by Mexico for the first time in years for my boat.
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 12:31 pm |
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Grant I would of e-mailed but Im sure others may be interested to your answer to my question
If you buy a boat in San Carlos whether New or used would it have to be transported back to the states for title transfer then brought back to the border to get T.I.P? THE T.I.P. on existing boats arent transferable, & states you cant sell the boat in mexico ,the way I understand it.
thanks Mark
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JUBILATION JOHN
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 08:05 pm |
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I think Heidi Grossman's response on this subject pretty well states the facts and I would trust her judgement on this one anytime. I have never been to a Marina in La Paz especially that they would let you in without a copy of the TIP. Marina Real requires me to provide them with a copy of the TIP, Insurance and USCG Documentation on file and up to date every year.
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barato
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Posted: Wed Feb 20th, 2008 10:26 pm |
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from Heidi's post above:
Vessels less than 14 feet must be imported definitely unless they are part of the safety equipment of a larger temporarily imported vessel.
this might be stupid Q, but as Hook correctly noted, you never know when the law might get enforced........
my "boat" is little 11' inflatable that travels in bag in back seat of Subaru. i wouldn't even worry about this....doubt they'd see it as a boat....except that i have a small outboard for it. should i get a TIP for it? CAN i get a TIP for it, in light of Heidi's comment above? what does "imported definitely" mean?
thanks for any info!
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 12:01 am |
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Think your boat like a kayak, falls under the category of sporting goods you are allowed to bring in duty free
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Posted: Thu Feb 21st, 2008 02:17 am |
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Well, every time I think I understand all of this, something new comes up. I was told that I did not need a boat permit (at least in Kino), and few seem to have them. I gather that you only need a TIP if you are using a major marina or entering a port of call from sea. To be safe and avoid paranoia, I decided to get one if I could, on the internet. I haven't received it yet, but the process wasn't too bad and I was able to pay on the site. They will FedEx it to me within 10 days. This seemed a lot easier than hauling back to KM 21 or paying an expediter to do it for me. I plan on keeping the boat in Mexico for the next 10 years. Better safe than sorry, I reckon.
2/21/08 My permit arrived today along with the papers required to return in 10 years. Pretty fast (2 days). My questions now are:
1. Do I have to send anything back at this point? There were no further instructions.
2. Can I renew in 10 years without towing the boat back to the border (if the boat aand I are still around)? 
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Grant
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Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 02:34 am |
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I am trying to answer all your questions, just taking the time to make sure I give you the proper information with the corresponding laws to back it up.
The Marina Association recetly received a notice from Aduana to notify that they will soon begin inspecting Marinas to make sure every boat registered is in the country legally.
I suspect that Marinas that have not been requesting TIP's will soon begin to do so as there will be fines for the boat owners as well as the Marinas.
As soon as I have more information I will post it.
Heidi Gossman
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Grant
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Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 10:03 pm |
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I just found in the Ley Aduanera, that when ordering you TIP online it should take 20 days to arrive. You are supposed to mail back or take to the Banjercito office at the border or take to your nearest Mexican Consulate, the "carta compromiso" which is a letter promising to , among other things, not sell the boat in Mexico. This letter should be among the papers sent to you.
Along with this letter you must deliver or send a copy of the document you used to fill out you TIP online (passport, title)
I would just bring the papers down with you when you come to Mexico and drop them off at Banjercito at the border.
I am interested in knowing if this letter was included in your FedExed papapers and if there were any instructions as to what you are expected to do.
As for renewals, at this time you can do them online.
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Posted: Sun Feb 24th, 2008 01:37 pm |
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Heidi,
Thanks for the answer. Yes there were two copies of the promise letter. One must be to use when my permit runs out, and the other is the one to mail or return. I had read somewhere that some paperwork needed to be returned, but the permit/decal and other papers did not come with any clear instructions on what to return. I'll just send copies of title, registration, and passport along with the "promise letter" since I have about six weeks before we leave. I prefer not to stop at KM21 since I already have everything I need done.
Thanks,
Matt
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Posted: Thu Mar 20th, 2008 02:50 pm |
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Could someone please post the website address where you can get your TIP online? I tried the link that Heidi listed on a previous post and it comes up with "website not availabe". Thanks.
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Grant
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Posted: Thu Mar 20th, 2008 03:03 pm |
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http://www.banjercito.com.mx
Click on "tramites" on the left side
Then select English
Then start application
Apply and pay for your permit online
You will then get a pop up window where you should select temporary import for boats.
Good luck!
Grant
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Posted: Thu Mar 20th, 2008 07:06 pm |
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| Grant, a question regarding the permit. My boat is at Marina Seca with a permit I got at the border several years ago. You have the permit on file there. The permit was free at that time. Do I now have to get a new permit for the boat?? Thanks
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Posted: Fri Mar 21st, 2008 01:22 am |
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Ok, I got the TIP application filled out and ordered and it's on it's way. Once we get it at our house in Salem and bring it down to San Carlos, how do we go about getting it signed by the Aduana? The boat has been in San Carlos all its life and is currently in storage. Do they inspect it or what would be the procedure? I am coming down in May for three weeks. Thanks for your help.
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Posted: Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 05:11 am |
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To All,
I just did the process at the Banjercito in Guymas. It was a non event. I went in, asked for help and 2 folks knocked it out for me in about 10 min. It cost $50 I believe.
All I needed was my passport, registration for the boat, and my visa. Pretty simple.
Now why we have to do this, I can't really say. Seems like just another pain in the tail, but again, it did not take a long time and I'm set for a lot longer than I'll own the boat.
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Posted: Mon Mar 24th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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jefe,
No new permit is needed if you already have a TIP that has not expired. Any new permits now cost about $540 pesos however as they are no longer given out for free. You can renew your premit online as long as it has not expired as well.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28th, 2008 04:48 pm |
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| Thanks for the info Grant!
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 02:53 pm |
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I have read through this entire thread twice and must be dense because I still have questions. We do not have time to order the T.I.P online and receive it in the mail before we come down, so that means getting it at KM21 which is fine EXCEPT our boat is already in San Carlos since we were told 2 years ago when we first brought it into Mexico that we did not need it. I read in this thread that someone has to inspect the boat during this process - is that true? If that is true then we can't get the T.I.P at KM21 because we won't have the boat with us. What are our options - in step by step, plain language - at this point? Thank you so much for all your help and knowledge.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16th, 2008 06:12 pm |
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I had my boat down as did others under the same conditions you described.
Just take the title and registration and go to Banjercito in Guaymas over by the harbor. Just the papers, don't need the boat. Go to the teller and tell them you want a temp import permit for your boat. They'll copy your documenst, your visa, and your passport. You'll pay about $52 us and it will take about 20 minutes. Nice people, and this is hassle free.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 02:38 pm |
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| I started the online process and ran into a few problems most of which just took a few tries at entering the info differently for the page to accept it. But one problem I ran into stopped me from proceding, the pull down for the hull year only goes to 1975 and there is no way to manually enter the year that I can figure out. Can I not get a TIP on a 1971 hull or is this just an oversight when the page was built? How closely is the paerwork gone over, will anyone ever notice if I just check 1975? I would sure like to have TIP in hand when coming down and not have to hassle with the process at the border. Thanks.
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