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Divecoz
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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 03:53 am

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They are talking about Rooster fish in another thread and I was wondering is this fish good to eat? What are other popular fish being caught that are good to eat.

 Does San Carlos See Hog Fish or Greater Amberjack?

On Cozumel we eat Barracuda often (and its fantastic BTW) 

what about in San Carlos?

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sorry about you ate barracuda we never had  poor quality fish yellowtail ,snapper, cabrilla or grouper.dorado,tuna. it is our meals

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My Friend dont feel sorry for me, we get all those you list and much more what is poor to eat versus good is often only personal opinion . Well true somethings are agreed and dont taste good. . . Jack-C's Tarpon Bone-fish etc etc . The Barracuda that I have had many times is excellent. Your missing something for sure .

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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 05:47 pm

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Barracuda..One helping gives you one years supply of Mercury. Yummy.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 05:59 pm

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Well I see a lot of misinformation out there  at least

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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 08:01 pm

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070716165702AAafrVp

Eat a cuda

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 Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 09:18 pm

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Although I have never tried Roosterfish I've heard it is very dark meat and not good. One easy fish to catch that tastes very good are trigger fish. I love them. Firm, white meat and they can be speared or caught from shore. They are a bitch to clean as the skin is quite tough.

We like dorado the best. Not too many in San Carlos this time of year. Yellowtail is good and the sierra and bonito are both good fresh.

I wonder if the pacific barracuda are different from the atlantic? I've tried it and it was mushy and slimy almost to the point of greasy. The fish was 2' long and only a couple of pounds.

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Thank You TontoTom

 Jimmy your site is very flawed but believe what you want.

 Every  fish on the list above would be read as similair, to the cuda concerning their eating habits, think about it, they ALL eat the same fish and they are all White firm low fat fish...

Atlantic Barracuda BTW are as stated All white heavy firm low fat fish.

 Thank You Tontotom again and I also agree about the Trigger Fish  once you

skin -em you have a great meal .

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My favorite is wahoo, then dorado, yellowfin tuna, yellowtail. Trigger is good too as is sierra and the list goes on...

Roosters I've been told are not that good, Very dark meat as someone else stated.

I've eaten a lot of barracuda of So Cal. Marinate in italian dressing...tastes great

It boils down to I like almost everything...

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A friend and I fish out of San Diego each year, and last year we brought home a single barracuda (about 10lbs), along with some nice YTs and YFT.  He loves to thow things on his smoker, and had gotten a "barracuda recipe" from an old salty dude on the boat. 

I must say that everyone who tasted the 3 kinds of smoked fish, said they preferred the cuda best (although we didn't tell them it was cuda till after the voting :cool:

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Dorado is my number one choice, maybe because of the texture, with fresh tuna running a close second.  Honey cured smoked tuna is to die for.  Trigger fish and sea bass are excellent too.  Anything else is just survival food to me.  Even carp and tilapia can be OK if you fix them right.  Marlin, sailfish, and wahoo usually live to swim again.

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I agree.  A couple of years ago, the wife and I went to Cabo, and I had great fishing (out of El Budster).  Two striped marlin day one, and 4 dorado (25,35,40, & 60 ... that's the 60lbr in my avatar) day two.  I gave all but the 25lber to a local charity organization, and had the 25lber sent to a restaraunt in the marina, with info on when we would dine that night.  They cooked enough up for me so that it was prepared 3 different ways, and still had a bunch left over to share among the restaraunt staff. 

I would love to get back to CSL 2-3 times a year, but the airfare is just to high for multiple trips annually ($750 pp for non-stop from Phx).  I'm really looking fwd to my first (billfish & dodo) trip to SC this spring.

So far, I haven't been able to talk my wife into SC, but my fishing buddy can be talked into just about anything. <G> 

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I would strongly urge anyone NOT to eat barracuda. They are often wormy. I caught some in northern Florida and the captain said that they were safe due to the water being clolder than down south.

It caused me great problems and a trip to the hospital to stop internal stomach bleeding. Not alot of fun for a fish that I don't believe even tastes good. Kind of grey meat and very dry.

Be aware.

 

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pacer99 wrote: I would strongly urge anyone NOT to eat barracuda. They are often wormy. I caught some in northern Florida and the captain said that they were safe due to the water being clolder than down south.

It caused me great problems and a trip to the hospital to stop internal stomach bleeding. Not alot of fun for a fish that I don't believe even tastes good. Kind of grey meat and very dry.

Be aware.

 


Where do you guys get this stuff??????

 Worms ? Stomach bleeding ? Grey Meat?

 Just so you know . . .Cod . . yes and no doubt that is where you heard about it as they live in  and or among the thermoclines with mammals who expel an abundance of excrement.

 IMHO your tag should be Hans Christian Anderson :D

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Kind of like needlefish (agujon). I've caught 'em, but I won't eat them. Something about green meat and bones that sort of sours my palate. However, I've had locals gladly take them off my hands, swearing that they make great ceviche. Same with black skipjack. The meat is just too dark and bloody for my liking, although the locals swear it makes great machaca. One man's trash fish is another's treasure fish, I guess.

My Sea of Cortez eating preference goes something like this and is assigned bullets rather than numbers just because the difference in how much I like some species is too close to call. However, #1 (in my opinion) IS the halibut. It's the absolute best!
  • Halibut (I've only ever caught these in Penasco)
  • Yellowtail 
  • Huachinango (Red Snapper)
  • Leopard Grouper or Pinto or Gold-spotted Bass (all the bass family members taste very much the same, nice white flaky meat, perfect for breading and frying)
  • Corvina or White Seabass (link is to a 30 lb. white seabass we nailed this weekend in Penasco)
  • Dorado (good white meat, but dense and very filling)
  • Yellowfin (hard to beat a fresh tuna steak on the grill)
  • Sierra (the absolute best fish for making ceviche)
  • Black-tip or Mako Shark (rare, but we do occasionally catch them, can't beat shark kebobs on skewers cooked on the grill)
  • Whitefish (excellent, but often bony, unless you catch the larger models)
  • Trigger (under-rated, but always excellent eating, almost like eating crab)
I'm sure I missed something. Like wahoo, pargo, and pompano for example. All are good eating, but I don't catch them often enough to make the list. :(

 

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Stuart That my friend is a great list and makes me envious of you talent.

 I assume its been done with a Rod and Reel ?

Well at least the shark kabobs hahahaha!

 Halibut I didn't know you had Halibut in the SOC. . .

I will check out your link to the Corvina as soon as I post this.

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Stuart:

 Nice fish  guy...

 Now can I ask . Are  you a tourist? A Charter Service? a Resident?

 Of San Carlos

 Looks like it was a bit chilly down there last weekend ?

 Nothing like it is right Now in Chicago 11 degrees and not as a buddy reports it is in Coz 84 degrees. Somewhere in the middle?

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Well, I guess 'Fishing Nut' is probably the best description for me. I live in Tempe, AZ, but I fish Puerto Penasco very often and San Carlos a few times a year. I do take groups of my friends fishing - everybody chips in to pay for gas, launch fees, fish cleaning, etc., but no, I don't run a Charter business. I have a small business (Dulcecita Lures) that makes custom trolling lures that many in San Carlos use. I fish some of the tournaments in San Carlos each year and helped sponsor the Cantina Cup last fall. I've been fishing in both Puerto Penasco and San Carlos for many years, both as a shore fisherman and out on the blue water.

About the halibut - they are there, especially in Penasco in the fall. I make a couple of trips each year specifically to target halibut. You can see some pics here from our November trip. And yes, all fish are caught with rod and reel. I don't spearfish, but I do know a few guys that do. 

The halibut in the Sea of Cortez are closely related to their Pacific cousins (California Halibut). They are thought to be a unique sub-species or trapped population, but there is still debate. To the best of my knowledge, they are only in the Northern Sea of Cortez. I haven't heard of anyone catching them elsewhere. They get decent size, running up to about 25-30 lbs. We generally drift fish for them in deep water with 14/0 circle hooks on a long leader with live candy mackerel or fresh dead sardines. Smaller versions, flounder size, are commonly caught from shore in the fall using rubber curly-tailed grubs. Regardless, they are about the finest eating fish I catch.

It was beautiful in Puerto Penasco last weekend. Cool in the morning, maybe 50-ish, but warm in the afternoon - 70's. I was fishing in T-shirt and shorts. Water was flat as a pancake and made for a great day of fishing. Chicago... brrrrrr! :D

 

  

 

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I have never heard of Halibut in Rocky Point. They were always called Flounder? But, I haven't been there lately. I remember when the jumbo shrimp were 10+ inches long and as big around as a silver dollar.

A group of us old hippies kept places there from '66 till the developers forced us to sell out and we became millionaires of sorts. That's when the NICE people invaded. Funny how things just seem to work out. Thank you!

It didn't matter much because I had not been there but a couple of times in the last 25 years. The check was just a very pleasant surprise.

And another pleasantry was that when my friend Ruben Ramirez, the Port Captain in Rocky Point back then retired, he talked me into moving to SC and we have been friends all of these years.

The locals in SC say that Trigger fish makes the best caviche.

Thresher Shark is good eats.

If you dare, puffer fish makes a nice piece of meat that looks kinda like a shrimp and is delicious. But beware! It can be deadly if not cleaned and prepared correctly. It's especially good with lots of Tecate.



 


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Jimmy wrote: I have never heard of Halibut in Rocky Point. They were always called Flounder? But, I haven't been there lately. 

A group of us old hippies kept places there from '66 till the developers forced us to sell out and we became millionaires. That's when the NICE people invaded. Thank you! It didn't matter because I had not been there but a couple of times in the last 25 years. Just a pleasant surprise.

The locals in SC say that Trigger fish makes the best ceviche.

Thresher Shark is good eats.

If you dare, puffer fish makes a nice piece of meat that looks kinda like a shrimp and is delicious. But beware! It can be deadly if not cleaned and prepared correctly.
 
 JIMMY In Japan and here in Chicago ( though illegal in Chicago and done on the QT)  the serving of Puffer is an exacting specialty and a high price is paid to Chiefs with the ability to provide it. Yes by all means Trigger though small is excellet.



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