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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 01:48 am |
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A couple of questions about fishing?
I would like to catch some dorado should I wait until later in the year. I can't earlier because I will be coaching for the middleschool.
Would I be better off fishing the new moon at the end of June, 1st of July or the full moon in July?
Also besides hot what is the typical weather windy?
Also is it mostly blue water in the summer?
Do any small boats make the run to blue water?
I have a 17 BW Outrage. I've fished the coranado's off San Diego, but that's only about 12 miles out? We just got back from Puerto Vicente panga fishing 25 miles offshore, but that was the nicest ocean I've ever seen. Some big swells but no chop.
Any information about a sucessful trip would be greatly appreciated.
Tom
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 02:01 am |
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Hi Tom,
Bryan (repsilon) here, not my papa Dick. I swear that my friend was correct last year about the fish (billfish) coming in closer on the full moon. You may find more wind in June but you never really know. July begins to get toasty yet it will be cooler on the water. You might get more tablefare in closer in June. If you need some consultation, drop me a note before you come down. I'll fill you in on the inshore action too.
adios,
Bryan
p.s. dropped you a P.M.
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 05:02 am |
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Check buoyweather.com for a free two-day forecast. We look at the chlorophyll on Terrafin to find out where the blue water is. It will depend on the currents and water temps. You can get fish right offshore but we often find most of the fish at the reef (@12mi.) and beyond. Your best bet for dorado is usually to head out farther. You might see a lot of days with some small morning chop that flattens out nicely starting late morning. Get on your VHF (63 & 68) and get a quick report and let people know if you're out there. It's usually quite predictable but we did had one freak burst last year (mid-July?, went 0-35knots and seas to 6+'). You're pretty safe that time of year usually. We get a lot of very nice days though it can blow at times.
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 04:56 pm |
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I don't consider myself an expert, but typicallly I've had my best luck out of San Carlos in July. The weather seems to be a little calmer so I have been able to go out farther and more often in my 17 & 18' boats. I've chased tuna as far as 28 0r 30 mi. out, but usually I go just for the dorado, with everything else being consequential. I've seen the fishing get hot and heavy from six mi. on out. In July I usually get all the action I want within 15 mi. or so. You should do fine with your 17' BW as long as you watch the weather and fishing reports. Always file a float plan with someone. Dorado fillets steamed for ten minutes with fresh grated ginger in the water is one of my favorites. (Bring your own ginger, because it's hard to find in Mexico.) A little garlic, maybe some pepper and Voila!
If you are new to the area, hiring a reputable capitano at least the first time or two out isn't a bad idea. They are usually fun guys to go out with, and they can make things go a lot smoother. I always share my snacks and beverages with them. They can drive the boat and help you land the fish while all you need to do is fish and enjoy yourself. That's their job. A little gratuity at the end of the day is always appreciated. It's not a bad idea to hire a charter the first time or two either. I usually do when I try out a new area. Those guys do what they do because they love to fish, and their sole purpose is to show you the best time possible. Buenos suerte.
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 07:05 pm |
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You are getting good advice from the experts. I'm a SC rookie after 18 years in Baja.
I have a 16.5 foot center console 50hp tin boat. Just do what they say and pick and choose your days and pay attention to what is happening and you'll do fine.
I've chased tuna with the best of them 25-30 miles out. Get out early and back early too. Winds pick up in early afternoon. I usually head back on a troll and if I see the wind picking up make a run for it. Watch the weather patterns and the winds during the time you are there.
Only one rule in nature, you screw up you die....
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 09:15 pm |
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One more little note on safety. Take a GPS, marine VHF, and a cell phone set up for international calling if you have one. I have a hand-held marine radio I've been able to communicate across 30+ miles with. Sometimes when conditions are bad for VHF, a cell phone will possibly get through. As AcuDoc says, if you screw up, you could die.
One time both of my motors went dead fishing 17 mi. out of Rocky Point. A "kicker" outboard emergency motor is always a good idea. I was only able to pick someone up on VHF for about 20 seconds before I could call my coordinates in. We were able to get someone on shore with the cell phone. Cholla Bay Rescue couldn't be reached, so the Armada Naval (Mexican Navy) patrol boat Kochab came to our rescue. They were too big to tow us, so they had an Armada Naval panga tow us in. They wouldn't even let me buy a round of beer for the crew. My Cingular cell phone has always worked great in Mexico. Have the phone number of the marina where you launch or someone you can reach on shore. Having a good time is always better than an adventure in my estimation.
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 10:17 pm |
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MobyJr. My thought's
1) July is a great month, mostly FLAT sea's and no wind
2) I like New moons The Best
3) Pay attention to the weather and Saftey as pointed out by the other response's
4) Blue water as close as 4 Miles, for sure 10 miles
5) use a local Fishing Guide at least day 1
have fun
Steve
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Posted: Tue Feb 5th, 2008 11:29 pm |
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Right on Steve.
I guess I didn't mention that capitano is a term refering to local guides. I can't stress how much they are well worth their pay. They usually know where to go, and they can show you tricks and techniques you might not have used in the Pacific. I've acquired a lifetime's worth of knowledge from the money I've spent on local guides. When Jesus was my capitano, he showed me what lures he thought were good, and how he thought they should be rigged. If a dorado got within one foot of the boat, and I wanted it, it was flopping in the cooler within milliseconds. When I wanted to be Sr. Ecologista, and turn one loose, he was quick with the pliers. One time when I got a 20 lb. fish tangled up in the outdrive, I handed him my rod when I went over the side to untangle it (after he shut the motor off). I got it loose, but in doing so, the darn thing flopped over and hit me in the head so hard, I actually saw a burst of stars. The next thing I knew, I was just kinda floating there, with my facemask (possibly the very one in my picture) sitting cock-eyed on my face. Jesus had the rod with the fish on it in one hand, and my wrist in the other. I took that fish home and ate him with relish. A good guide can show you more in a couple days, than you'd learn about the area in a month or more by yourself. They live on that ocean.
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Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 03:09 am |
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I would like to thank everyone for the great response. This fourm has been very helpful. I will definitly get reconmendations for a Captian before I head out.
Again thanks for for the help I'm sure I will have more questions before I go. I'll try to get them in the right fourm.
Tom
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