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How many rod/reel rigs are acceptable at border?
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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 04:13 pm

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I have a friend that was going down to SC to fish with some buddies (3-4 others were to meet him there the next day).  He was transposting all the gear, and had 8-9 rigs in the back of his pickup.  When he reached the border (at Nogales), the Mexican border guard told him that he was only allowed 2 rigs, and he would have to pay $100 per additional rig as a "commercial fisherman".  He turned around and came back to Phoenix.

Can this be a true "law"?  And even if it is, why in the world would the border guard be enforcing a fishing law?

I was hoping to get to SC (for the first time) this spring, but this story really makes me wonder if it's worth taking the chance (bringing my own gear - probably 3-4 rigs down). 

Please tell me it ain't so!

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 05:10 pm

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The letter of law for importation (as opposed to fishing regulations) states you may import duty free, two per person. There is also a clause stating that an excess of imported items may suggest that they "can be an object of commercialization".

That being said, I had 14 Black Steel Seekers in a rod bazooka, and 16 Trinidads, Tiagras, and Internationals in a reel locker, that were inspected and ignored while entering with 4 persons in the vehicle. Since then, I have made multiple trips back and forth with as many as 8 rods in the vehicle while traveling alone. The law is clearly written and understandable, if they choose to enforce it. 


1. New or used goods for personal use, such as clothing, footwear, and hygiene



products, so long as they are in accordance with the duration of the trip, and their



quantity does not suggest that they can be the object of commercialization.



2. One photographic camera and one video recorder, and, when appropriate, their power



source; up to twelve rolls of unused film or video cassettes; printed or filmed



photographic material; one cellular telephone apparatus and one pager; one



typewriter; one new or used portable computer, of those called laptop, notebook,



omni book, etc. In this case it is not necessary to have the permit before importation.



3. Two sets of used personal sports equipment, as long as they can be transported by one



person.



4. One portable radio apparatus for the recording and reproduction of sound, or one dual



purpose.



5. Five laser disks, five DVD disks, 20 compact disks (CD) or magnetic tapes (audio



cassettes) for the reproduction of sound.



6. Books and magazines, whose quantity does not suggest that they can be the object of



commercialization.



7. Five toys, as long as they can be transported by one person.



8. Medicine for personal use. The prescription must be shown if they are psychotropic



substances.



9. Cases, chests, and suitcases necessary for the transport of goods.



10. One pair of binoculars.



11. One musical instrument, as long as it can be transported by one person.



12. One tent and one set of camping equipment.



13. One surfboard or sailboard.



14. Regarding disabled persons, goods for personal use that, by their characteristics,



compensate for or diminish their disability.



15. Adult passengers may also introduce a maximum of 20 packs of cigarettes, 25 cigars



or 200 grams of tobacco, and up to 3 liters of wine, beer, or liquor, with the



understanding that a larger quantity of these products cannot be imported without


complying with the applicable regulations and restrictions.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 05:35 pm

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No Sniveling:

Thanks for the info.  Sounds like the border guard in my story must have been either new, or having a bad day. 

Now I'm back to looking forward to a spring trip.  You have any recommendations for clean, inexpensive places for 2 fishermen (new to SC) to stay?  Any charter company recommendations would also be most appreciated.  We'll probably fish 3 days, with one of those days being from a (super?) panga, and the other 2 for YT, Marlin, and/or Dorado.

 

Thanks in advance ...

 

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 06:43 pm

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If you get turned back from 1 check point, go around and try to get a green lite at the other. Down town vs Mariposa. The key is Green lite-no check-no problems.

Also, I have had excellent luck with good explanations, a plea for help or mercy, and sometimes an offer of reasonable mordita. (Yes Tiny Tim, it is still used, but rarely). And-I do speak substantial Spanish. Big help!

Most anything is better than dumping your plans and spending hours to return home.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 06:50 pm

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Hola,

The "where to stay" is kinda' depending on what you want - there are several recent posts about this on the San Carlos Forum, and links or phone numbers to most on the main web page (http://sancarlosmexico.com/). Before leasing long-term, we always rented beach houses for our stays, but I did stay at Motel Creston once - fine for a place to shower, sleep, and store your stuff @ about $50.

For charters, I'm a little prejudiced, as Fernando and Steve at Catch 22 are my best friends. There are no charter pangas or super pangas in San Carlos - they are more suited to the inshore conditions on the Baja side. Most of the charter boats are Grady-Whites and Skipjacks in the 24'-28' range. Some of the other charter companies have full size twin diesel cruisers; 41' Bertrams, Oceans, etc., and the rates vary by boat size. With only two guys, you'll be fine on a 24' boat.

As far as fishing, you'll find mostly yellowtail and bottom fishing (USUALLY) through mid April. By April 15th, we are usually seriously looking for water warm enough to start holding dorado, tuna, and marlin. By May 1st, everyone has forgotten about yellowtail and it's May Marlin Madness! After saying all of that, we were talking about March Marlin Madness last year; it just never got off to more than a few fish if I remember right.

Take a look back to last year on this board and you be able to see when it started and when it got good. Now if you want great yellowtail fishing, anytime from now until April, you have a good shot at getting lots of quality fish at Isla San Pedro or Punta San Antonio. Team Catch 22 caught 15 smaller yellowtail in an hour at San Antonio last February while pre-fishing the 1st Annual Yellowtail tournament.

Hope this answers your questions, and good luck!

:cool: Craig

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 11:00 pm

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The Creston is a great deal but for a few bucks more the Fiesta is right on the water with a great view. Both have pools.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 12th, 2008 11:33 pm

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They must have let me go for just being an insane gringo! Maybe he counted my dog in for the four rods the guy was permitting me to import. I must have had twenty plus, not to mention the five windsurfers, twelve sails, kayak, two rafts, and a million other things. I just gave him the "you want me to pay where look", "are you really going to ruin my day here", "I have no idea how many rods are really there", and I was going to pay or give him anything ... but I think I got lucky.

$100 dolars???

I think I was told twenty and started looking at which rods I could scrap.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 13th, 2008 12:46 am

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$20.00 has been a pretty reliable figure for me the last 15 years.  I used to cross the border regularly from Arizona, California, and Texas.  Although I've had as many as 10 or 12 rods with me, I was never hassled about them.  I have brought questionable things back to Mexico for friends occasionally (innocently, of course).  When I was occasionally nailed and questioned about an item,  My response got to be,"Oh, I didn't know there was a tax on that.  I'm in kind of a hurry.  Could you pay it for me?  How much is it, $20.00?"  That usually got me on my way.  When I lived in Tamaulipas back in the '80s it was $10.00.  Taxes and duties have gone up I guess.  I'm not condoning that as a way of doing things.  I'm just relating experience.  Maybe some day an Aduana officer will say to me, "No, I think it's more like Thirty."


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