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 Posted: Sat Jan 5th, 2008 12:08 am

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is it legal to toss a small castnet from shore for baitfish?

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Not if you're Mexican.  I've hired locals to catch bait for me from shore with a castnet.  The sportfishing regulations state that it's illegal to use any kind of net but a landing net as I interpret them.  I'm not a lawyer and I only hablo Español un muy poquito.  Take a Mexican fishing with you.

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 Posted: Sat Jan 5th, 2008 07:14 pm

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bahiatrader wrote: Not if you're Mexican.  I've hired locals to catch bait for me from shore with a castnet.  The sportfishing regulations state that it's illegal to use any kind of net but a landing net as I interpret them.  I'm not a lawyer and I only hablo Español un muy poquito.  Take a Mexican fishing with you.
 

A little typo trader it is legal if you are Mexican

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I knew that, but it's illegal for us gringos!

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 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 12:39 am

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I am still confused, sorry. It is clear from the regs for a fishing licence that you cannot use a net from a boat. However, you do not need a fishing licence to fish from the shore so maybe it is Ok for gringos. If not then where is it stated so ?.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 03:13 am

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Mexican Sport Fishing Regulations


 


 

Before fishing in Mexican waters all anglers must have a valid Mexican Sport Fishing License. This license covers all types of fishing and is valid anywhere in Mexico. These licenses may be purchased a day, week, month or year. Aboard private boats in Mexican waters everyone must have a fishing license if there is any fishing gear, fish, or fish parts on board. The boat operators normally provide licenses for people fishing on charter sport fishing boats, but check before you go out on the boat. A fishing license is also required for underwater fishing. A fishing license is not required when fishing from land.


Fishing License Fees (USD)






Weekly
$22.90

Monthly
$32.80

Yearly
$42.70


If you bring your own boat to fish with, you will need both a permit for the boat itself and individual fishing licenses.


Boat Permit Fees (USD)





Under 23'
$32.55

23'0" to 29'11"
$65.10

30'0" and Over
$97.65








The Department of Fisheries office (Oficina de Pesca) for these in San Carlos is on the right after you pass the entrance to the Marina Seca Dry Storage boat yard. Hours are 0830-1500 M-F. Ph: 011-52-622-226-1144.


You may also order permits and licenses via postal mail from the Oficina de Pesca (Department of Fisheries) in San Diego, CA. 
Click here to download the application form


Only one rod or line with hook is permitted in the water, per person, but there is no restriction regarding the number of replacement items.

The fishing license allows you to capture only fin fish. It does not allow you to capture any mollusks or crustaceans, and their capture by anyone is strictly prohibited. Totuava, turtles and marine mammals are under protection of the Ministry and may not be captured at any time.

To capture bottom fish, up to four hooks on a vertical line may be used.

The use of electric reels is restricted to disabled fishermen only, after written authorization for the Ministry before use.


In ocean waters and estuaries the limit is a total of ten fish per day, with no more than 5 catches of a single specie, except of the species of Marlin, Sailfish and Swordfish and Shark, of which only one specimen of either is allowed, and which counts as five toward the overall 10 fish limit, or Dorado, Roosterfish, Shad, or Tarpon, of which only two samples of each specie are allowed, and which count as five toward the overall 10 fish limit.

Limit on inland bodies of water (rivers, lakes, dams, etc.) is five fish per day, whether of a single specie or in combination.

Underwater fishing is limited to five fish per day, using rubber band or spring type harpoons, and only while skin-diving.

There is no limit to the practice of "catch and release", as long as the fish that exceed the bag limit be returned to their environment in good survival condition.

Where sportfishing is conducted from boats out at sea for longer than three days, the bag limit will be the equivalent of three times the amounts mentioned above.


It is illegal to sell, trade, or exchange the fish caught. Fish should not be cleaned on board at sea but should be brought to fish cleaning stations in the marinas. Fish can be eviscerated and filleted, but a patch of skin must be left to permit identification.


The taking of abalone, lobster, shrimp, clams, cabrilla, totuava, oysters, and sea turtles is prohibited.  Purchases of these species may be made at designated public markets or fishing cooperatives.


VIOLATIONS


 It is illegal to capture and maintain alive any fish for ornamental purposes.
 It is prohibited to receive any financial gain from the product obtained through sportfishing.
 It is prohibited to dump trash, litter or substances that harm the aquatic flora or fauna, whether on lakes, river banks, shores or oceanic waters.
 It is prohibited to collect shells, corals, sea anemones and snails, or to disturb the original ecosystem environment.
 It is prohibited to practice sportfishing 250 meters or less from swimmers.
 It is prohibited to use artificial lighting to attract large quantities of fish.
 It is prohibited to discharge firearms in Mexican waters.
 Fish caught under a sportfishing license may not be filletted aboard the vessel from which it was caught
 It is requested that all unusual activities, occurrences or record catches be reported to the nearest office of the Oficina de Pesca, or to its representation in San Diego, CA., in order to ensure the preservation of natural resources for the continued enjoyment of all fishermen.


Note: Sea turtles are protected under US law and may not be brought into the US.


Be prepared to show a Mexican fishing license to US Customs if bringing fish back into the United States

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 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 05:31 am

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I believe that is just an anglicized synopsis of the actual fishing regulations.  I had a true copy once, but I can't seem to find it.  Maybe one of our Mexican friends can find it and quote the actual regulation.  I gave my cast net away years ago.

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This was taken from a translation I found.  I guess that pretty much says it.

 "Except when skin or scuba diving, fish must be taken by angling with a hand-held line or a line attached to a rod."

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Well then I would question that source since it is illegal to spear fish with scuba gear-only free dive spear fishing is permitted.  Our source was the Pesca office in San Diego who graciously provided us with the translation.

Thanx

Bart

 

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"Except when skin or scuba diving," doesn't deal with what kinds of skin or scuba diving or what kinds of devices are legal.  The translation just says when you're not scuba or skin diving, "fish must be taken by angling with a hand-held line or a line attached to a rod."  The methods of taking fish while diving are also covered.
"using rubber band or spring type harpoons, and only while skin-diving." is from the Oficina de Pesca translation.  There's nothing wrong with the translation, except that it's just an abbreviated synopsis.

I just know I'm not going to be caught using a castnet or a gill net or any other kind of net to take fish with.  I'll have a Mexican do it for me.:)  I never wanted to be a sea lawyer.  Tight lines and buenos suerte.


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