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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 06:37 pm |
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Hello,
When is peak time to fish for yellowtail in San Carlos (Sonora), do they start showing in the south first and migrate north or the other way around?
I saw some wicked blitzes up in Puerto Libertad couple of years ago in early Jan.
By the way someone was telling me that there is bonefish in the Kino area?
Thanks for your help.
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 07:08 pm |
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| The yellowtail are in san carlos right now. usually when the warm weather pelagics head south the yellowtail show up. Most people think they are here all year around but are in deeper water and don't school durring the hotter summer months. In the winter large schools busting the surface can be found just outside marina real by san antonio point and also around San Pedro island. Yes bonefish surely can be found in Kino. I've never tried to catch one there but I bet they are there. These are cortez bonefish, a little smaller than their cousins in the Atlantic. Every one I have caught so far has been around 16-18". Nobody really fishes for them but I've caught quite a few. I found a spot about 10 miles south of rocky point at playa san jorge where we caught a mess of them one afternoon. They seem to be caught only when the water is very warm. If you want to try and catch them concentrate on sandy bottom areas in 4-10 feet of water.
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 07:54 pm |
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Awesome info!
I'm headed to Nassau to stalk bonefish next week, but can't wait to book my trip for those yellowtails and see if I have any luck spotting bones.
I suspect the usual flies will work? I have a bunch of flies that worked for me in HI. I suspect there are no guides in San Carlos that will take you out just for bones.
Thx!
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 08:18 pm |
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The bonefish I have seen were so small that I can't imagine targeting them, especially if you have chartered a boat. We're talking 12"-16" and under a pound. Talk to Bryan about renting a kayak and where to fish for them - I've caught several between Honeymoon Island and shore.
http://www.scaamexico.com/
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 08:39 pm |
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La Posada Bay has lots of bonefish. I've caught them there and used them for bait. They make a great bait for marlin and for deep drops. We just used bits of squid and fished over the sandy areas near the middle of the bay, 15-25 ft. deep. They are in Penasco, too. Have caught them there. As mentioned above, they aren't big. But there doesn't seem to be any lack of them.
Knick-knack, paddy-whack... give a marlin a bone!
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 08:47 pm |
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You have a good picture for every story... ...now, you need to get Fernado to make a video for you!
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Posted: Tue Dec 4th, 2007 09:22 pm |
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Nice bone! The biggest I've caught is 10" down here. I've caught mine along the shore, but not sightfishing. Whole different story here. I would think that it would be too cold for them by now. Will try the Posada thing next year. I'll have to check out those larger ones in Kino some day. I hear there is an estuary along the NW side of Tiburon that has them. Better to sight fish halibut on the high tide in winter coming into the estuary. I think though that they've almost all been netted now. Let me know if you need a kayak. May have a panga with a casting platform one day.
buena suerte,
Bryan
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 12:11 am |
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My wife caught one about 12" last week in RP. It hit in 100' of water using the sabiki for bait. He was in a school of mackeral. Surface temp was about 69d.
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 03:36 am |
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repsilon wrote: Better to sight fish halibut on the high tide in winter coming into the estuary.
buena suerte,
Bryan
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Come up to Penasco if you want halibut. We nailed these flatties up to 22 lbs. about two weeks ago. Drift fishing deep water about 250 ft. Four guys on my boat - we landed 8 of them, lost a few, got about 25 snappers, 2 white seabass, and two nice leopard grouper. Banner day! Hoping to do it again Dec. 17, weather permitting.
http://picasaweb.google.com/CompuQuill/RockyPointFishing
And people wonder why I fish Penasco during the winter! 
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 03:43 am |
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No Sniveling wrote: You have a good picture for every story......now, you need to get Fernado to make a video for you!
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I don't have that "Get Jiggy With It" form that you do, Craig! I'm all about putting some bend in the rod, no matter what it takes! 
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 06:33 am |
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| It's probably hard for a fly fishing nut to hear about using bones as bait. Especially after stalking the flats in the gulf of mex or caribbean for them but out here they are just another fish. They also have them in California- I've read reports about them being caught in mission bay. If you are fly fanatic a much better fighting and more readily available fish to target is the trigger fish. Go to rocky point in the summer and hit the beach near the mouth of the first estuary at the end of las canchas. at low slack tide use a 3-5 wt rod and take small ugly beat up flies in green, yellow pink etc. Look for the trigger fish around the reefs in shallow water. If the wind is down you should be able to see them. they are have small mouths with nasty teeth so hooking them is tough but when you do, hold on. They tend to scream away from you at lightning speed stripping line off. one more thing, carry a pair of pliers cause you don't want to get your digits near their teeth. after you land 3 or 4 fish the fly will be shredded and you will wonder why anyone would travel to the bahamas to catch a bonefish. When the tide starts moving in move to the sandy bottom areas and slowly retrieve flies along the bottom for corvina (sea trout). these don't fight that well but they taste great and get big. 4 or 5 pounders are common. If you get there when the tide is going out try this trick, find the fastest moving water you can right at the mouth of the estuary and strip clousers or decievers along the surface so they skip out of the water. if you are lucky little pompano will crash the fly. at high tide wade out as far as you can and fish the edge where the reef drops into deeper water. schools of pompano cruise this edge and can be a blast on the fly.
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 04:35 pm |
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o-show wrote: It's probably hard for a fly fishing nut to hear about using bones as bait.
One man's gamefish is another man's bait! The subject has come up before.
Seriously though, no offense intended. It's just as difficult for us billfish guys to hear about people keeping marlin or sailfish and not releasing them, so truly, I do understand.
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 05:23 pm |
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Ahh yes.. The Bonefish for bait debate.. Yes, we had a excellent dialog about a year ago..
O-Show, do you fly fish?? Have you fly'd on the Cortez by boat???
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Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2007 07:23 pm |
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| I'm a recovering fly fishing addict. i used to wade all around rocky point looking for fish on the fly but now I mostly troll for pelagics with big stuff. I'm in a 12 step program to get over my addiction but I have relapses. I landed a couple really nice dorados last year on the sage 8wt about 35 miles out of sc. and by the way I have no problem using cortez bonefish as bait.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2007 03:47 am |
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man, I'm too adicted to yellowtail, I may never be cured
and can't wait to go to San Carlos after christmas
and get me a video from PQ...
over here, at California, YELLOWS are way too deep
and the use of a 3 way swivel , with a 8 oz torpedo sinker
and a live sardine or small squid, a 2/0
has been efective.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2007 01:29 pm |
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The Bahamas are awesome. Yes, there are other fish that can run as fast or faster, thougher (like albies) etc. but to me the challenge of spotting and getting a bone to take the fly in the flats has no comparison. And I'm not talking casting to a school I mean those ones and twos crusing the shallows.
Yes, it is exciting to seat on a chair and wait to see a sail and then cast a fly to a bill fish, but it's just not as challenging.
But flats sight fishing is a personal thing, lots of my fishing buddies prefer to head out to the canyon for 250lbs+ tunas and sharks with heavy tackle, than to catch a 6-10lb fish.
Anyways, here is a couple of pics from my trip to Nassau... now I'm back to the cold NY weather and looking forward to getting down to Mexico.
Cheers!
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Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2007 01:31 pm |
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Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2007 01:34 pm |
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Stuart wrote: La Posada Bay has lots of bonefish. I've caught them there and used them for bait. They make a great bait for marlin and for deep drops. We just used bits of squid and fished over the sandy areas near the middle of the bay, 15-25 ft. deep. They are in Penasco, too. Have caught them there. As mentioned above, they aren't big. But there doesn't seem to be any lack of them.
Knick-knack, paddy-whack... give a marlin a bone!
Thanks for the great info!
That fish, while I'm sure it is a bone, doesn't even look like it, is so tiny
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Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2007 07:19 pm |
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On the Baja side we used a drop loop when using a lot of weight other then that a 2 or 3 oz egg sinker.
Personally not a fan of 3 ways....too many knots.
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Posted: Sun Dec 23rd, 2007 05:52 pm |
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By the way, I uploaded some of the Nassau action to youtube.com
That's me on the video along with my guide Aaron!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIp9Tdla5-g
Happy holidays.
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