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fearnofish
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 Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 06:37 am

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I will be making my first trip down over the Thanks Giving holiday. We will be there Wed thru Sun. Can't wait! We will be bringing the Kayaks down to fish out of. They are rigged with 6 rod holders, Garmin color fish finders and I may have time to rig up a live bait tank for one of them also. Wish I could charter a trip with Catch 22 or Jon Jen but that will have to wait for a future trip.

My question is what baits and rigs are a must have. Most of my tackle is for largemouth but I have had more opportunity to fish the salt recently so its time to gear up!

I have a Seeker Black steel G970-7 20(25)30lb class rod with a daiwa saltist STT30TH reel mounted to it. I also have a Curado 300DSV on a Shimano Teramar inshore series rod. Not the best arsenal but its a start. I am wanting to try for yellow tail off the point?? Other species are great too but want to target some larger fish if possible.  I have plenty of confinence in the yak and the right safety equipment. I am pretty green so any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Andrew

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 Posted: Thu Nov 1st, 2007 03:22 pm

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Hey Andrew,

Since you are also a largemouth angler, I thought I'd pass this along to you.  Don't leave your crankbaits at home!  I've never caught a yellowtail on a crankbait, but I have boated and landed several other small to medium saltwater species, including dorado on lures I originally bought for largemouth.  I even caught a nice tuna on a banjo minnow one time.  Any predatory fish will strike at almost anything that resembles prey at any given time.

I especially like rattletraps and almost anything that resembles a crippled or distressed minnow.  You might want to replace the original hooks with goood stout Owner, Eagle Claw, or Mustads.  I have yet to try a rubber worm or a nightcrawler in the ocean, but I'll bet they would work.  If they'll bite on a kitchen sink, I'd throw one at 'em.

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 Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 03:48 am

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A couple of suggestions:

1. Don't expect to see water as smooth as your picture! The best place to try for yellowtail is probably San Antonio point and with the currents that converge there it is frequently "a little bumpy".

2. Get some Hopkins and Megabait 1 oz chrome, green, and blue vertical spoons for the lighter rod, put some tough 15-17# on it, and maybe some 6"-12" 30# wire leaders. You'll also want some CD11 Rapalas (redhead, firetiger, and orange would be good to start). Try vertical jigging the spoons near the point - you'll see the fish on your sounder, and you can troll or cast the Rapalas - good for big sierras that time of year!

3. See the string about 5 topics below "Calling all IronMen". The BS 970/Saltist is a perfect combo for throwing 6X Jr's and 3 1/2 oz Megabait live jigs for yellowtail. Look for fish anywhere from right on the point to 1/2 mile out - watch for boiling fish early and late in the day.

4. Contact Bryan (Repsilon on this board) as he's the resident expert on "pullin' from the plastic panga". His website is linked on the home page under Watersports: http://www.scaamexico.com/

Good luck, and look for No Sniveling to be there if I'm lucky!

 

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 Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 04:35 am

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Thanks for the great replies. Bahiatrader, I have been doing just what you suggested  as far as the bass baits in Rocky Point and off of Catalina Island with great success. Those Calico bass off Catilina absolutly loved my favorite plastic bass bait, a white zoom fluke. I also use good hooks like you suggested. My favorite are Gamakatsu and Owner hooks.

No Sniveling, thanks for the details. Thats exactly what this "newbie" needs. I will definately pick up those baits. I fully expect the water to be a little more challenging but think I will be ok. If I think it's too ugly I will stay in the bay. I am past that stage in my life where I thought I was invincable (can't believe I admit that!) My plan is to also try some live bait but I do prefer artificials. I also have been in touch with Bryan and plan on paying him a visit as well as the two charter outfits I am familiar with from this board, Catch 22 and Jon Jen.

Thanks again. Andrew

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 Posted: Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 04:07 pm

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I just left San Carlos after a month of kayak fishing and a couple of trips with JonJen.  The first week of Oct, I caught plenty of Dorado launching from the beach at the Palapa Restaurant and fishing around the big rock island right outside of the marina entrance.  Then the water cooled or ? and the kayak trolling bite disappeared.  I did catch a few fish bottom bouncing a crocodile.

There is a nice  cove for yak launching off the road to Marina Real- I think it is called Frenchy Cove.  Take the road towards Marina Real, but at the Marina turn, take the left fork towards the RV Park.  Go past the RV Park and after the Tope, take the first dirt left to the beach.  This puts you close to open ocean and San Antonio point without a real long paddle. 

I was fishng with bass gear I use at Elephant Butte Lake for Stripers- Abu Garcia 6500 size with 17#.  This worked great for small fish, but I was really busy with the one 20# Dorado I caught.  I had best luck trolling with 3/4 oz Crocidiles and Bonito Feathers, but this bite went away with the water change.  Maybe the Yellowtail bite will be on for your trip.  Stop in and talk to John at JonJen for ideas on where to fish and for a look at the water temp plot.

I Took two rides with JonJen, and Abel, John,  and Roberto were great to fish with.  Caught Dorado and a Sail, and learned a lot about fishing in SC.

Hope you have a great trip. I was not ready to leave but have to get back to my other occupation, skiing at Taos.

John Wheatley

Last edited on Fri Nov 2nd, 2007 04:08 pm by taoswheat


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