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Al
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Posted: Tue Dec 27th, 2005 02:41 am |
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I saw a previous post by Steve Calvert on trolling rapala luhrs. If you could enlighten me as to the size,weight and model of luhr that would be helpful. Trying to purchase tackle on line and bring it down to San Carlos. Thanks for the help.
AL
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Posted: Tue Dec 27th, 2005 02:57 am |
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Al,
Try CD14, 18, and even CD22 sizes in firetiger, green mackeral, red/white, or the stainless gold colors. The Mirrolure 111, 112, and 113 sizes in the same colors are good too, as are the YoZuris. Any of them will work best on slow-trolled wire, unless the fish are showing signs of working the surface. Good luck!
Craig 
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Posted: Tue Dec 27th, 2005 02:58 am |
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Al:
Rapala Super Shad seem to be the lure of choice as far as Rapala's go. They are all one size I believe (about 6" long). Rapala Magnums are also a good choice but I will let the local experts give you the best advice. See you in San Carlos in a week or so.
John
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Al
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Posted: Tue Dec 27th, 2005 04:55 am |
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Thanks for the advice and quick response guys, really appreciate it. The stuff is on order from Offshore Angler.com.
See ya later,
Al
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Posted: Tue Dec 27th, 2005 10:59 pm |
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| Rapala also Makes a 6" rubber lure called a storm lure. it comes rigged and weighted,and in several colors, my best luck has been the pearl white ones, they are cheap, about $12.00 for four pak,and usually last for aleast 3 fish..Check them out trolling on wire, or casting on the surface to boils,they work very well for yellow tail, and cabrilla, "Sponge Bob" was at Tortuga last weekend on a two day trip and just reported to me he killed them,on the storms " a fish evry 10 min. for 2 days striaght" hope this helps Steve
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Al
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Posted: Wed Dec 28th, 2005 03:14 am |
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Steve,
Appreciate the info. I haven't heard about that particular luhr but will look into it.
Not to be stupid, but could you explain exactly what, trolling with wire means. Don't forget, I am from Oregon. Have experience fishing in the Florida Keys but haven't heard that expression. Remember, If you don't ask questions you don't learn??
Thanks for your input,
Al
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Posted: Wed Dec 28th, 2005 03:54 am |
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Al,
When fishing for hard-hitting yellowtail (and some other toothy critters, like sierra), some guys use stainless steel wire line instead of mono. I've seen it used in San Carlos frequently. Some guys run downriggers with wire, too.
Alternately, you can use a section of wire leader 18-24" tied directly to the lure and connected to the mono on your reel.
Personally, I have several reels spooled with 100# PowerPro Spectra and prefer to use this, sometimes with a wire leader. It's about the same diameter as 20# mono.
I wouldn't say wire is an absolute requirement, because we like fly-lining live bait directly on mono to catch yellowtail on the surface. However, for trolling deep-diving lures, wire is a great way to go.
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Posted: Thu Dec 29th, 2005 04:04 pm |
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I don't often disagree with Stu but on this one I do. If you are going to troll with wire, get monel, not stainless. Monel has a higher nickel content and is less prone to kinking and corrosion. You do not need a full spool of it, maybe a 100 yd top shot over dacron, spectra or whatever. The wire line is heavier and helps the yo-zuri, or rapala or other diving type lure get down in the strike zone when the fish are not on the surface. This is one case where more is not better-at a certain point the water resistance will overcome the diving action and push the lure back up. I load 100 yds over dacron on a Penn 6/0 and then run 50-75 yards back. Connection between wire and dacron is an Albright knot.
Hope that helps
Bart
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Posted: Thu Dec 29th, 2005 05:03 pm |
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I stand corrected, Bart. Monel, you say? After reading up on it, it does look like a better choice than stainless steel wire.
Speaking of wire, has anyone else used the titanium wire leaders? They are the most flexible I've ever seen and don't kink at all. Problem is, they are fairly pricey, rated test is not very high, and they only seem to come in fairly short lengths. I've used them for sierra with Yo-zuri Hydromags and they do a great job!
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Thu Dec 29th, 2005 07:40 pm |
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Yes the line is called Monel. It is more expensive than stainless but sinks faster and stays deeper because it is more dense than stainless. I don't even bother with a leader when trolling with monel-haywire twist a snap swivel to the monel and clip directly to the lure or just run a short mono leader if you like.
You can buy it in most of the online catalog locations-shop around to see who has the best price.
I generally only pull two rigs with this stuff off the rear rod holders. You have to slow down to 2-4 knots and watch the turns. Tangling it is not fun.
Bart
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Posted: Fri Dec 30th, 2005 06:38 pm |
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 Hi Bart, et al,
I have a couple of downriggers and am wondering what depth range to place the cannon ball and how much set-back to use for YT and Sierra? Any other info regarding using downriggers will be much appreciated.
Joel
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