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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 02:45 am |
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Thanks everyone for your advice and comments! I am really starting to get excitied my trip to Mexico. I do have to say I am still a little concerned about under water hazards. Is there info. that I can obtain that shows where the under water hazards are. I have the " Baja Catch" but it dosent have any info.on Tortuga Island. Iam thinking of hiring a local captain that can show me whats up there. I also have been reading the fishing reports on "mexfish.com". The pastfishing reports for that area are really good info. There is a guide there by the name of Mike Kezler that is very informative. This guy sounds like the man to know as far as that area of baja!! Anway any more info or thoughts would be awesome! Thanks everyone!! Thanks Mike 
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 02:59 am |
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Gerry Cunningham's guide books (http://www.gerrycruise.com) cover the majority of the SOC, anchorage by anchorage. There are typically several pages dedicated to each ancorage and he always has a section on the dangers to watch for. There are tons of pictures, both water level and aerial.
I always keep them on the boat and pull them out everytime I enter a new bay I haven't been to in a while. This is even more valuable than having a captain. The captain will only know the SC area, and will have little local knowledge of what's going on in Baja. Combining the two resources is the best. He drives you look at the book and charts.
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MOBILE MIKE
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 05:15 am |
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| Hey JZ, I just ordered from Gerry cruise .com The middle gulf addition. That looks like all I will need. Now just a little luck with the wether. Thanks again, Mike Oh yea, another question, is there any paper work I need or can I just cruise over there and do my thing? Thanks again. Last edited on Wed Sep 26th, 2007 05:21 am by MOBILE MIKE
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 05:27 am |
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You are suppose to check in with the local marina in SC once, but you no longer need to do paperwork at the other ports you visit (that use to be a huge hassle, for example it took at least 3hrs to do it at Santa Rosalia).
Technically, I think you are suppose to alert your local marina when you venture off to another port. Not sure anyone actually does this. Talk to the folks at Marina San Carlos.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26th, 2007 02:02 pm |
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| Whenever I go out I ALWAYS leave a tentative sailing plan with somebody; Marina San Carlos at San Carlos, Rescue One at Kino, or Cholla Bay Rescue at Rocky Piont. If you don't show up where you're supposed to be, it's a good idea to let someone know where to start looking for you.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 02:47 am |
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Thank you all very much. It will be one of the first things I do! I am looking for boat insurance as we speak. I always get it every year, but it just expiried. Thanks Mike 
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 06:46 pm |
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| Watch out for Dead Mans Rock out near Cactus island up near Kino. I think it is called Roca De Foca in the Cruisin The Baja book. A pinnacle rock that is barely visible at high tide if at all.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 06:51 pm |
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Technically, I think you are suppose to alert your local marina when you venture off to another port. Not sure anyone actually does this. Talk to the folks at Marina San Carlos.
Rescue One at Kino has been known to start a search if you are not back in the place you told them or near the time you told them you would be back. So updating if you are changing your plans is a very good thing to do.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27th, 2007 08:37 pm |
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If we are crossing over we tell a friend on the docks with a boat we'll call you when we get to the other side. If we don't call, come look for us!
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Posted: Sat Sep 29th, 2007 08:36 pm |
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| Good advice about overnight stays at Tortuga. I spent 3 nights there over the years and always wish I had gone to San Marcos. The wind kicked up at night in a big way each time and didn't get a lot of sleep. Could have been worse. There is no place to hide and the wind changed direction. I don't know how the anchor held one of the nights without snapping the line as it was getting sheared against the rocks on the bottom...
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Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2007 11:08 pm |
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HEY SOUNDS LIKE A FUN TRIP JUST BE CAREFULL OF WATERS NORTH OF KINO BAY AROUND TIBURON WACTH YOUR TIDES IVE SEEN LARGE WHIRLE POOLS AROUND THE ISLAND AVOID TIDES GOING OUT AND YES LET RESCUE ONE KNOW WHERE YOU ARE AND WHERE TOU ARE GOING.
HAVE FUN AND POST SOME PICTURES OF YOUR TRIP WICH I WAS GOING BUT MY LAST TRIP SC I BLUW MY ENGINE SETS IN MARINA SECA GETTING FIXED I HOPE SOON.
CAPT. TOM
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Posted: Sun Sep 30th, 2007 11:32 pm |
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| I agree wholeheartedly with FLYINHI about Kino. There's some pretty scary places for a boat of any size. I drew a skull and crossbones on my nav map after I foolishly, or ingnorantly went between Tiburon and the mainland. Tides funnel down and run pretty fast in there. I used to like to troll the deep water on the other side of Tiburon though.
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Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2007 06:02 am |
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Hey Guys,I am taking your advice. I will be anchoring at San Marcous Island or San Louis cove the first night. I am going to hire a local captain the first day to learn some of the area and technics. I am watching the weather as close as I can. I lost the address of the site that has the sea and wave forcasts. Any one know that address or a good weather site for that area? What I am looking for is a forecast of wind and sea conditions for the Santa Rosalia area south to muluge. Thanks again, Mike 
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Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2007 02:47 pm |
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Links to the pages you refer to are on our Solunar table page.
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Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2007 05:20 pm |
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FLYNHI wrote: BE CAREFULL OF WATERS NORTH OF KINO BAY AROUND TIBURON WACTH YOUR TIDES IVE SEEN LARGE WHIRLE POOLS AROUND THE ISLAND AVOID TIDES GOING OUT
Where are you talking about specifically.
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Posted: Mon Oct 1st, 2007 06:10 pm |
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| As I remember, the water is pretty shallow with only narrow navigable channels between the island and the mainland. The tides go out so fast they can leave you stranded if you don't get caught in the turbulence. I just don't think it's a safe place to go when there's so much good fishing on the other sides of Tiburon. I guess we gringos aren't supposed to go onto the island.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 06:26 am |
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My wife and I took our trip out of the old marina on Oct. 5th. We had a full tank of gas (63 gallons) and a brand new motor that I had just tested and installed.We left around 8 am. with very calm seas. Trolled all the way to San Marqous island the first day. It took all day as the winds picked up in the afternoon. I was concerned about light so we anchored in a cove the first night. The cove was on the east side of island and was protected from the NW winds. Sand bottom I felt safe so that was that. The night sky was amazing!!! I shined a bright halogen light in the water for a few hours and that was pretty amazing too!! Lots of bugs and plankton and stuff I cant describe, it kind of freaked me out. My first thouht was bait but I wasnt putting my hand in there!! So we had steaks on the boat and turned out the lites. Thats when things really got freaky!!!!!!! All around the boat as far as I could see in the pitch dark were florecent light green little balls floating in the water. Thousands of them as far as I could see. Nothing but stars and these balls glowing all around my boat. I took my spot light out to see what they were anr I could not see any thing in the water. I can only asume they were some kind of jelly fish. (If any one knows about this creature let me know) There were know mushrooms on board so I wasnt seeing things !  We slept kind of crappy after that but it was still a nice evening. We had a couple drinks and called it a night. That was the way day one went. Oh yea three knock downs and one nice dorado on the way.The blue water was about 35 to 40 miles out on a 210. Nothing untill the blue water. That was day one. Tired of typing will post day two tomorrow. Thanks everone for your help in my adventure!! Mike
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Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2007 03:12 pm |
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MIKE
I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE IM NOT SURE WHAT ITS CALLED I JUST KNOW ITS SOME KIND OF ALGY WHEN YOU RUN YOUR BOAT AT NITE YOUR WAKE WILL GLOW IT SURE IS A SITE. GLAD YOU HAD A GREAT TIME WICH I COULD HAVE BEEN THEIR.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24th, 2007 01:47 am |
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| Thanks for your reply. The sea creatures were pretty trippy!! Day 2-Started a little windy and I decided to take the forum's advice as well as the advice from the Gerry Cruise Guide and left early to clear San Marcos Island. The sun was just coming up as I pulled the hook up and we were on our way. The wind was coming out of the Northwest and we were on the Southeast side and we started to head for our next destination. After reading the Gerry Cruise Guide, I would have chosen to go around the North end of the Island due to the very shallow reef on the South end of the Island. I read and was told that the South end of the Island has a very shallow underwater reef that extends from the South end of the Island a good distance out. Looking at the aerial view of the reef in the Guide it look liked it was only a couple of 100 yards past the end of the Island. WRONG!!! It extends closer to a 1/2 mile or more. I discovered this as I attempted to come around the end of the Island in very rough seas. As I cleared the safety of the Island, the Northwest winds hit me hard on my starboard (right) side. I was keeping a close eye on my depth gauge as I fought the wind and waves. The sea bottom went from 1,000.s of feet deep to less than 6 feet in less than a football field!!! Pretty damn scary if you ask me or my wife who was yelling out depths as it got shallower and shallower while I was driving the boat. It was an alarming situation to say the least. Anyway, we clear the reef all right and had to decide what was our next course of action. Originally, we were going to troll between the channel between the Island and San Bruno all the way to Santa Rosalia and anchor at the marina at Santa Rosalia. I knew from research it was a safe harbor from the Northwest wind and that there was fuel, accomodations and lots to do. The weather report forecasted NW winds for the weekend and probably into late-Monday so I wanted to stay at a hotel in Santa Rosalia and maybe get a little fishing in early in the mornings, weather permitting. That never happened, it blew for almost a week. I was running low on fuel at this point and the seas were building fast and I wasn't sure I would make it to Santa Rosalia. I decided to change my plans due to conditions and head for safe harbor at San Lucas Cove (I found this information in my Baja Catch book). The seas were 6-8 feet and climbing. I decided to put out a couple of lines (marlin topwater plugs) and troll to San Lucas Cove which I estimated was 6-12 miles away. I knew I would be tight on fuel but was comfortable with my decision. Putting out the lines served 2 purposes. First, I wanted to fish (of course). Second, it helped calm down my wife (she was fine, just a little nervous) and it kept her mind on the poles rather than the seas and our fuel situation. We were half way to the cove when 1 of the lines started to SCREAM!!!!! We had just hooked something big. My wife was at the helm and kept us pointed into the wind at idle speed in gear as I fought the fish. This was one tough fish!! I fought the fish, waves and wind for 1/2 an hour on heavy tackle and finally landed the fish (oh yeah, I was barefoot and put a huge treble hook in my right foot and was bleeding all over the deck during the fight). It ended up being my first rooster fish. It was huge!!!! I guessed that it weighed close to 80 lbs. I took pictures and released it. It was close to 5 feet long and I could barely pick it up. After releasing the fish, I had to put the boat back on course and yank the hook out of my foot. While my wife drove the boat I grabbed the 1st aid kit and the pliers. The barbs on fishing hooks work really damn good. Also, make sure you always have a very good first aid kit available. I thought I could just grab it and pull it out. NO WAY!!! I pulled as hard as I could (and I'm a big strong dude, in my own mind) and the skin stretched out but the hook wouldn't move. I tried several times screaming at the top of my lungs over the wind and waves but to no avail. I sure as hell didn't want my wife to do it because then it would be "get even time" due to the fun she was having. I remember reading something about pushing the hook all the way through and then cutting the barb off and pulling it back out so I though I would try that. NO WAY!! It hurt like hell and I just couldn't do it. I knew I had to get the hook out so I could continue to captain the boat so I tried several more time all the while screaming and cussing at myself for not wearing shoes in the first place. This was starting to freak out my wife and the seas were still building and the gas tank was on empty. Side note, I wasn't sure how much gas was in the tank because I had just replaced the fuel sender in the fuel tank. I finally used 2 hands, wedged my foot between the seats and pulled as hard as I could with an in, over and out motion to clear the barb and out it came. Thank God. Cleaned it up, put on some shoes and I was good to go. We crept into San Lucas Cove, nearly escaping the shallow reef and anchored for the night. It was about noon and we were happy to be there. Very low on fuel but out of the wind. That's it for now. I'll continue date 2 tomorrow. Thanks for reading. Mike
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Posted: Wed Oct 24th, 2007 02:19 am |
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| Ihave pictures but dont know how to post them. Can anyone tell me how? Thanks Mike
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