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jones152
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 04:45 pm |
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| We too are waiting for Report, I think there are a few home owners headed that way from Tucson. Hopefully they will post something.
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Rick
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 05:04 pm |
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| I got down in SC last night around midnight, took 5 hours from the Kino Bay tunr off, and I cheated... One guy took 11 hours... Bridges, road, trucks, cars, are smashed all over the place..... No power from Posada on..... Main road at Totaknaka got washed out, 30' deep 50' wide....... 12 boats in the harbor sunk or on the rocks, hundreds of boats in dry storage smashed..... If this note gets thru, I'll be amazed....... Guaymas and Empale got it just as bad or worse, the main church near the Presidente Plaza, came down, roads, sewer, ect....... Rick
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BoulderGary
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 05:53 pm |
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I am also a BD owner and live in Boulder.
Where in CO are you from.
Gary A
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Rhonfda in Colorado
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 05:58 pm |
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I have a home NW of Antonito on the Conejos River
I live between there and ABQ,NM
Am anixous to hear about Bahia Delfin and how we
weathered the storm-Fingers crossed that there is minimal
damage to units
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Rhonfda in Colorado
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 05:59 pm |
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| hope for the best for all of our owners
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Rhonfda in Colorado
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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| Thanks for the info.-keep it coming
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SuzK
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 06:28 pm |
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| I'm a new member and worried mom in Michigan. Spoke to my son this morning. They have no power on the Caracol so went to a house lower down, closer to the town of San Carlos. Unsure if it is due to a generator. He has an SUV so has been able to get around as necessary. So sorry to hear about everyone who has houses down there that can't get to them!
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crazywolfe
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 07:24 pm |
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Found a good video on youtube from Thurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbqUwnQ_Jz8
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mareasdelmar
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 07:50 pm |
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Excerpts from communication I received from Karen at Seaside Long Realty:
Some areas of town made it through just fine like Royal and Golf Club, but others like Costa del Mar and Puesta were hit very hard ... The rain (all 25 inches of it) had to go somewhere, and unfortunately it went to Costa del Mar. The walls are down in many places around the subdivision and most houses had a lot of water and mud in them.
The arroyo in front of Charlies Rock on the east end of town totally collapsed the whole width of the road and 20 ft. deep. Therefore, we cannot get out of town via the main road, but I have heard of some who have made it to Guaymas via the Ranchitos. Guaymas and Empalme have been labeled a Disaster Area by the Mexican Government.
The boats in Marina Seca are all in bad shape. We have 3 boats on the main road that broke loose from Encantada Boat Storage, through their fence and also into the Guardian Storage area that has caused severe damage.
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leighllee
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Posted: Sat Sep 5th, 2009 09:44 pm |
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Good video of conditions in SC during & after Jimena. Thanks jdog22mex for the video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E40-FolEfv4
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UsryTregre
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 02:25 am |
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The following background is from bilingual tourists stuck in a traffic backup for up to 24 hours.
A storm spun off of Hurricane Jimena stalled over the popular tourist destination, San Carlos, Sonora, Mexico. The storm ‘rained for 30 hours’, and accumulated 25 inches. The resulting flood turned normal 10 ft wide washes into raging rivers over ½ mile wide (my estimate from the washout and mud areas). Major Mexican highway 15, a split four-lane from the Nogales border crossing to Guaymas, Sonora, Mexico and further south, was completely breached on both lanes, leaving a 20 foot wash where a highway road used to be. Sections up and down the road for about five miles had wide chunks of asphalt peeled away. Road edges washed away, leaving a 5-6 foot drop-off at the edge of the road. A major intersect merge bridge support washed away, causing a 30’ section of the overpass to fall to the road below. Big rigs and buses were washed off the road, to be left jack-knifed and sunk in the huge accumulation of mud. Bridges and culverts, weakened by the flood waters, were deemed unsafe by the Mexican authorities. They shut down various parts of the five-mile section, necking down traffic to one lane each way, and routing them back and forth on north and south bound lanes. The authorities managed to repair one breach on the northbound set of lanes by dozing bucket-loads of dirt into the breach. It is at this point the Federales would allow first the south bound traffic to flow, and then the northbound traffic. People crossing the Nogales border at about 8 am for a normally five hour trip south took ten hours to reach San Carlos – and they were lucky enough to be at the forward edge of traffic. At 8 pm, there was still a 10-mile backup line of south bound traffic waiting to cross the breach (San Carlos, with no water and no power, was unlivable. We went back home.).
In the beach / boating / diving tourist destination of San Carlos, the same flood piled mud, washed out roadsides, and lifted cosmetic landscape off the median into the traffic lanes. A normally 10’ wide water way flooded about a ½ mile wide swath, lifting out and destroying the main road of San Carlos. It’s unknown if there is any other way out for the towns inhabitants.
More information at http://www.kvoa.com/global/story.asp?s=11080987 where I posted pictures as "Guest" and "Guest J Tregre".
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UsryTregre
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 02:25 am |
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BTW, my husband and I own in Condominios Pilar. Property-wise, it did well.
We crossed the border at 8 am, and arrived at San Carlos at 6pm. Without water and electricity, we decided to come back home.
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jones152
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 03:27 am |
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Hey Gary,
Dea here, your neighbor unit 152. Brian is down there right now and says all is well. My best friends house was flooded over in costa del mar so I'm trying to get her keys to my unit right now. I'll have her check yours out. do you want me to see if Fabian can give her keys to check it out?
Dea
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 05:28 am |
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| President Calderon and Governor Boors were here today and work is continuing with electricity getting up to the carricol tonight. NO WATER FOR 2 WEEKS..... The pumps in San Jose are under mud, and the pumps here in town were under water and will be repaired..... SOON......... Military was sent into GYM today to hold down the people, NO WATER, and many people without shelter, Empalme the same........ But, no rain today and things are moving forward, so in a few days ?????
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BoulderGary
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 06:18 am |
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Dea:
Thanks for the offer. Brian Harpel is down there and checked my unit. We have friends of Brian's staying in our unit since their house was damaged.
Hope all is well with you. Give Mike our regards.
All the best
Gary
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Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 06:34 am |
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Rick, where did you read or from whom did you hear that Calderon was here (here in SC?, Guaymas?) I haven't seen anything in the newspapers. El Imparcial and El Vigia reported that Bours had made a visit and that both the army and navy were sent in to help other rescue and aid efforts. I didn't see anything about the military being sent in to "control the people".
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Charlie
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 01:47 pm |
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According to El Imparcial, Mexico's first lady, in her capacity as head of DIF, toured Guaymas and Empalme over the weekend. So far, the president hasn't arrived.
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bartmanaz
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 03:36 pm |
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My wife and i were in Sc for Jimena and returned to the states yesterday. Here is what I know right now.
Access: Highway 15 south of the Kino Bay cutoff as suffered considerable damage, including complete collapse of the overpass at the junction where the exit to San Carlos/Guaymas is located. The road is passable but for about 15 miles two way traffic is on two lanes, alternating between north and southbound roadways. If traveling to SC, use EXTREME caution as the shoulders have been washed out and are even more narrow than normal. Do not even think about trying this at night or if more rain comes.
A bypass in SC goes around the washout on boulevard beltrones, past the new gym and then back to the ranchitos road. road is pretty rough but passable.
Infrastructure: CFE has a small army of workers in SC restoring electrical power. When we left, businesses in main part of town, east of the new Pemex had power and power was on in Ranchitos, Villa Hermosa, Creston, Golf course, Puesta del sol and some parts of Marina San Carlos. Power was expected to be back on in Caracol Turistico, the rest of Marina San Carlos and I assume the Caracol either yesterday or today. I do not know status of the bahia, bahia delfin, pilar or the marina real area so perhpas someone can provide an update. Water service is going to take longer to restore due to heavy damage to pump stations and line breaks. If you must go to SC to take care of property, take plenty of drinking water and perhaps bulk water with you. I'm impressed with the response from the various agencies in getting assistance into the area.
The most heavily damaged area is along Boulevard Beltrones from the point where Almejas street from Caracol turistico joins the Boulevard, east/north to about the entrance to Posada Condos. At one point on thursday when we were able to get out of the house there was a waterfall going over the Boulevard about 400 yards wide. Traffic is very congested in this area due to only one lane open so please be careful here.
If you have to go take care of your property, including those with property at Guardian or Gotcha Bodega storage, take your time and be prepared to be self sufficient for water. Services are going to be stressed so casual travel to looky-loo is probably not a really good idea over the next few days.
Hope this is helpful
Bart
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 06:55 pm |
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UsryTregre
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Posted: Mon Sep 7th, 2009 11:24 pm |
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bartmanaz wrote: I do not know status of the bahia, bahia delfin, pilar or the marina real area so perhpas someone can provide an update.
Condominios Pilar is relatively fine. A couple of trees went down, but caused no damage. Some of the bottom floors had water from the sheer amount of downfall, but no 'river' ran through; it was all pure rain water. Electricity is up, but no water, says Martin, the manager. People are using buckets to take water from the pool to flush the toilets. Drinking water is scarce.
Jackie Tregre - September owner - info as of this morning's email from Martin: "Already they have water" means they have one of the 5-gal drinking jugs.
Martin: Wells Collapsed in San Carlos
Hello to all, now we have a big problem with the water, all the wells that spurt from water to the city, are collapsed, does not have light or there is not no access by mud, in many colonies is no water, either in san Carlos and the truth they don't know when the problem can be restored, if the wells are not working either is water to drink. At the moment we have 11 occupied condominiums, they already have water, but in reserve we only have 10 left. I think that will be necessary to notice all the people you can, not come, the problem is serious and does not have date of solution. There are many trailers obstructed in Guaymas because there is no way to pass, they spurt to department store of food, that can be another problem, not yet, but.
Our water tank in Pilar is empty, the tank on the hill is empty and there is no water coming in because the wells are not working and the car tank that supplies us water does not have a place to fill the tank because there is no water or no access because of the mud.
We recommended our guest to use water from the pool for the toilets, but what about the dishes ? shower ?
Sorry to inform you all this bad news but I think the best will be not receiving more guest for a while.
Write to you soon.
Martin Fernando
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