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Divegirl
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 Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 07:00 am

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$20.00 WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Right, wrong, the america way, the candian way, the mexican way.

I am giving them the $20.00 and telling them have a nice day, and

going to spend my time doing more enjoyable things, such as

diving, fishing, drink a ICE cold beverage, and have a great story to

tell.  It is Mexico!!!! We go there because we enjoy experiencing the

Mexico life.... SO,  want a written ticket, safe driving class, court date, and

a fine of an excessive amount!!!! STAY IN THE GOOD Ole US OF A....

We are visiting THEIR country......Respect and appreciate that it is so easy to

visit, and you can afford to go there.   As we in America want the respect of

those who visit our great country!!!! happy 4th to all!!!! and

GOD BLESS THE USA, 

 

 



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 Posted: Thu Jul 3rd, 2008 01:41 pm

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HAPPY 4TH OF JULY

Just a suggestion to everyone, we have travelled a lot and lived in foreign countries. We have been robbed. Make photo copies of everything, drivers license, your SS Card, passport, all your credit cards.  Have a paper with the phone #'s of all your banks, credit cards, etc. You just never know what will happen and you need to be safe and able to make phone calls incase of an emergency, and get money. Don't keep all your money in your wallet, only the money you need at that moment, individual envelopes are good.  Place them in different locations.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 04:11 pm

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2 points here -

200 pesos is not a proper fine - for example - speeding in San Carlos is 1400 pesos and even illegal parking is at least 700 pesos. The 200 pesos was a "tip" or propina for letting you go. Or call it that other word.

Legally, you are required to surrender your license or drive directly to the Police Station and pay the fine immediately. If you pay the fine within 24 hours, the amount is reduced by 50% - so paying the 1400 peso fine either immediately at the station and getting a receipt, or within 24 hours and getting your license back, saves you about US$70.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 05:40 pm

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so Niceguy, you are saying that you aren't required to give up your license as long as you go immediately to the station?

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 08:06 pm

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Beegees,

Yes you have to surrender your license.  The ticket you are issued is your authorization to drive your vehicle to the police station to pay the fine (they don't expect you to walk there..in fact they'd rather you drive so that you get there rather quickly and contribute to the local economy).  It is their way of ensuring that you will pay the fine sooner than later.  The 50% discount is to encourage you to pay it very quickly.

It's different than the US/Canada.  It's the way it is done here.

Peter

 

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 10:04 pm

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odwyerpw wrote: Beegees,

Yes you have to surrender your license.  The ticket you are issued is your authorization to drive your vehicle to the police station to pay the fine (they don't expect you to walk there..in fact they'd rather you drive so that you get there rather quickly and contribute to the local economy).  It is their way of ensuring that you will pay the fine sooner than later.  The 50% discount is to encourage you to pay it very quickly.

It's different than the US/Canada.  It's the way it is done here.

Peter

It used to be common in some U.S. states for the license to be confiscated as a form of surety. The main difference between the practice in U.S.states where it's done and in Mexico is that in Mexico you can get the license back quickly by paying the fine immediately, whereas there's usually a delay in the U.S. (and no 50% discount that I've ever heard of :().

I grew up in Illinois, where police taking DLs was and apparently still is normal, even for minor infractions. If the story below is representative of what's going on, good news, though. Since the DL is now used as picture ID for all sorts of things, even there the confiscation practice may be coming to an end.

http://traffic-speeding-ticket.com/?p=28

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 Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 11:00 pm

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To beegees2 -

A Mexican lady I know who lives and works in San Carlos and drives her own car to work got a speeding ticket several months ago. She adamantly refused to give him the licence and instead drove from out near San Carlos Hotel to the Police Station, with the cop following. Of course, her Spanish is perfect and she's a bit of dynamite - so maybe her actions are not standard.

However, I have noticed that local Mexicans here seem to take no guff from the Police and are not afraid to tell them what's what and in a loud voice. American cops have got us cowed - give us the license or I'll shoot. Just exactly who's free.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 12:58 am

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Nice Guy, It sounds like you have experience with this subject. I too have experience, considerable experience with this subject.

I suppose it depends on the Socioeconomic standing of the Mexican National if they give the Officer a hard time or not. I personally have never seen a Local take on the Police. My Mexican Family and Friends are extremely afraid of the Police. They avoid any contact with them if possible. If stopped, they cow down, and treat the Officers with humble respect.

In a general note to all:

A couple of problems I have had with following the Officer to the Station are as follows;

1) Sometimes the Officer issuing the infraction is on duty and can not leave his post until later. 

2) Sometimes the Commandant, or other Officer, capable of accepting the fine is not available when you arrive at the Station...

If one of these problems arise for you, I ask...WHAT WILL YOU DO?    

As a post script, these problems are more prevalent in SC than they are in Guaymas......Ever visit the real Guaymas?  

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If you get a ticket from a transito, one of foot at a specific location, in Guaymas it is easy to deal with, this is what happened to me.

Made a u turn on a one way street, so I went the wrong way on said street. Was whistled to a stop, told what I did. He took my liscense, told me to pay the ticket at the station to retrieve my liscense. If I want 50% discount on the fine take my ticket down now, bring back the recipt to show to him, and he'll give my liscense back. I did and the fine was 50 pesos! less than a common mordida, and way better than points on your liscense and hefty fines I'm used to in the states.

I got pulled over in Empalme for running a red light, stop light was obstructed by a tree and there was also a stop sign on the corner. I stopped at the sign, made sure the coast was clear and proceeded and got pulled over. I explained what I did and he told me to be more observent and careful and let me go free and clear.

 

 

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 Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 03:08 am

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We were pulled over for driving the wrong way in front of Rosie's.  My husband got out  and   gave the officer his driving licence. A ticket was written. I got out of the vehicle and  offered the officer $20. He said, as the ticket was already written we would have to follow him to the Police dept. With the officer holding the licence and ticket. We did. The fine was typed up on a 1940's Remington typewriter.  We were handed a list of  various infractions and fines. Driving the wrong way was $7.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 07:20 pm

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Those old typewriters are still good for things like that. We had one in my FAA office for the daily log.   


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